still got the original tourance on the front but just fitted a dunlop 750 on the rear and it works a treat in the rough I only paid �32.50 delivered.

Thing is it shows up just how crap the tourance is on anything but hardpack, so now i need to find a bargain front or fit an old mt 21 thats been behind the shed for about 4 years

Are the original tyres not good then? I think they are the Tourance you mention made by Metzler? I know my son, who uses the bike for off road, says the tyres are awful. I keep to the tarmac roads at present untill I have more experience. Is it true that one needs to adjust the tyre pressure for on and off riding conditions? If this is so could you inform me of the pressure for both styles please.

Thank you for your help.

Ryland

Removed the original Michelin Siracs (only 1600 miles on the Ten at the time) to fit Heidenhau K60 M+S to do the Elefantentreffen and Tauerntreffen the January just gone.

I have used Conti TKC80s on my previous bike, a DR650RSE, but wanted to try a tyre that was equally as good in the snow, but with hopefully some more wear.

I found the K60s to be very good in the snow and having put about 2000 miles on in just over a week, there still seems to be plenty of wear left in them. They also seemed pretty grippy in the little bit of mud at the Dragon.

I've put my name down for the Lakeland meet and would like to try a little green laning/off-roading and to see how the K60s cope. I've got a new set of TKC80s lying in the garage (originally to fit to my DR) that will also need to be used up at some point.

I only did around 400 miles on the Siracs before removing them, but they seemed fine and I will probably put them back on at some point just to use them up.

With the K60s fitted and the Siracs and TKC80s in reserve, I don't think I'll need to buy tyres for quite a while yet!


Simon

Heidenau K60

I have a TKC 80 at front which is ok on tar and good trails but not slippery muddy stuff. The rear is a Mitas C02 which on tar wet or dry is entertaining, on slippy wet rocks it's useless and on slippy slimy mud and bogs, it's amazingly aggressive. River beds are a hoot because it will just dig a hole then you need to swim across. On good forest tracks, they will know you have been there. lol. I think the Michelin T63 is awsome on and off road but won't last.

K60 a good 50/50 tyre.
 

K60 front and back, Its a great value tyre. I found the rear a bit scary on the road at first, I could feel it dropping off the edge as its got a flat profile.
I was thinking of changing them but decided to lower the presure first and test them again. With the pressure dropped from 30 to 24 front and 25 rear they are transformed. They feel much better on the road and pretty good off road to.
I think they are a good 50/50 tyre.

Very interesting thread, I have read it all twice

I have Metz Tourances on a 2010 Tenere

The general opinion of Tourances from this thread seems to be;
OK in the dry on the road (although I have had a slide in the dry already on a clean road)

Rather poor in the wet on the road, just feel skitterish as hell to me

Terrible offroad (I concur)

This is a conclusion based on the average on what has been said here and backed up by my own experience of them (very short) 350 miles yes they have been right over so are well scrubed in.

So the question is, given that the Ten is an all purpose bike if they are so bad off road and only just OK on road in the wet, why bother with them at all? as from what I can see they are not really dual purpose and a big compromise on-road.
I rode on grass yesterday for 20 yards and a bit of very shallow mud and the ten was like a drunken camel.

So, whats the best "proper road tyre" for the Ten as the tourance seems like a compromise that is no good off road. May as well have proper road tyres or something capable on the wet stuff.

Cheers

Al.

Maxxis M6006 - but I definitely will not buy these again.
Very slippery on-road and not so good off-road.
The look like Heidenau K60 but are cheaper.

So my vote goes to K60, if comparing those two.

Dunlop Sportmax Mutant.
They look like rain tyres but I didn't have chance to ride them much so I can't judge their road capability.

Hmm, I would've expected more comments in a thread like this one.....

I've had Conti TKC 80's, they were ok but the front cupped rather badly. Could have been under inflated but if you pumped them up the vibration was not good.

Tried a set of Mefo's, again they were ok but the front always felt a bit skittish. Never really trusted them.

At the moment a set of Heidenau K60 Scouts front and rear, they do square off, but these would have to the best 50/50 tyre I've had yet. Handle the wet road well and perform in the dirt well. Deep gravel and mud arer not their favourite place to be. But then I think any 50/50 tyre is not going to like that.