Super Ten here at last
 

I've just seen the official pics of the new Super Tenere 1200 on MCN...
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...ealed-at-last/
It looks a bit like a fat Varadero to me, but I'd like to see it in the flesh all the same.

Just another Grand Touring bike that will hardy ever see the dirt. What a disappointment (IMHO).

If it is a toss up between that or a BMW12OOGS Adventure then I know what I would pick.

I will not be rushing out to put a deposit on it.

my thoughts exactly

Hi Mike, you keeping well, on the way to work yesterday there was a two car accident can you guess were it was :computer:

Having owned a 1150GS adv and read the continued grief with the 1200 on ukgser my money (if I had any) would be on the yam :D

Hello Ricky.......I see your enjoying your Tenere and putting to good use. Roll on the summer for some dry rides. ................... Was the accident on that bridge? or maybe in the traffic q with someone trying out the ABS? :confused1:

I thought the new Tenere would be a monster version of our 660's but it looks more like a mix of the TDM, V Strom and GS influences.

just looked at the photos and ok it might look a bit fancy looking until you look at that headlight/fairing combo, from the photos it just looks like a massive lump of funny shaped plastic.

Would like to see it in the flesh, and im still on the idea that a 900CC or something similar would have been good as more off road/touring/traily type bike. Or do people on these sizes of bikes even do off roading?

I still think the pics are photoshop jobs.

Ugghh
 

Now thats an ugly waste of money, check it out on the Yamaha web site, I won't be wasting my money on it

More pictures here:

http://www.motorcycle.com/gallery/ga...-super-tenere/

I can't seem to make the Yamaha website work...?

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Depends on the price for me. If the Super ten is a lot cheaper, i would pick that one.

Any price indication already?
answer: �13,499.00 or €15.300 (source: http://www.infinitymotorcycles.com/)

Doh - it was the UK site that didn't work, all the guff is on Yamaha Europe site...

http://www.yamaha-motor-europe.com/p...ubview=gallery

I like the 360� view facility... (hope the pannier locks are better than the 660Z versions x)

x

ps. the Yanks are gonna love the wet weight and suspension travel... yawn... here we go again!

I do not like it.

- don't like the headlights
- the screen looks like it has been taken from something else and thrown there
- the fans and radiator on the side are very exposed (any VFR800 owner having dropped his bike will tell you how painful it is)
- exhaust: WTF ?
- tiny front wheel
- presented with road tyres... it says it all... really....
- USD forks with no sleeves ....
- orange indicators ?? even the 660 has clear indies....
- clocks/speedo: look too complicated/distracting to me.

edit:

I just like:
- the fog lights in the accessories list
- the tank pad based on the prototype.

Well I've had some let downs in my time......

What a lardy love child of the GS and Varadero......


I quite like the wheel build with the external spokes, gives a choice of tubed or tubeless, but to be honest I can't see this bike getting away from tarmac.

The dash, well, WTF is that? It looks like a childs electronic game - way too much clutter there to be of any use at all to the rider.

Side mounted rads, but the fan is on the outside! there is only one place this is going in a fall. I can't see the side panels being alloy, look too high gloss plastic, but I could be wrong

Same old panniers........ but what's with that stupidly odd <BMUU> shaped nearside (or off-side if your ride on the wrong side) pannier.

205mm ground clearence, nope. this is a road bike for sure.

261Kg.........

To me, it looks too much like a GS (the side profile is uncanny), it has the toys, gadgets and play things of GS, it's a GS replacement no doubt.

That silvr colour,,, Urk! just needs a couple of red stripes and it looks like the olg R1150GS......

This bike will do well, it's a GS with the Tenere badge, you'll see these in biker haunts all over the country, right next to dirty, modified, bashed and bruised 660's.

I'll confess I had considered changing the XJR for one of these, I'll take a look when the dealer gets one in, but from what I've seen so far..... no thanks.

261Kg :bricks:

6speed, shaft drive....

it's a tarmac croozer with toys you dont need.

(I'm still gonna have a look at one, but no way I'd be swapping the 660 for one)

I like this emoticon ^^

I have nothing really to add on the SuperTed. Looks better than the GS IMO, but not as nice as the 660Z. Doesn't do much for me, but then I've always been one for light/middleweight bikes, so that's hardly surprising.

It is just a motorway cruiser. The more I look at it the more I dislike it. It is NOTHING like the Tenere pedigree, I think that they has missed the mark by a long way. I also noticed that these have to be pre order only

QUOTE "For 2010 the Super T�n�r� is only available as a special ‘ first edition’ version, including a thrilling adventure pack. This is only available through online reservation starting at the beginning of March." END QUOTE

:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::t humbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thu mbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

I'd like to see it in the flesh, read a few roadtests and maybe even have a ride myself(although I'm not sure if its for me) before finalising an opinion.

Having fun reading all the ****** on ADVrider. I do love the way people are forming instant opinions either love/hate based on just a few pics and spec etc.

As I see it they have made a GS1200 clone, but bearing in mind the GS is the best selling adventure tourer in the world that makes sense. Like most GS owners, ST owners will spend most of the time using the bike as a big tourer on tarmac with the odd trip on some gentle off road because they can. The off road rufty tufty style sells and expect to see lots of advertising with the ST crossing deserts, fords, forest tracks etc.

ST think Range Rover
XTZ660 think Land Rover

I hope its a success but fear it will be over priced(at least for the first year)

I hope the engines a cracker and they bring out a R and an X version. Having developed the engine they really should use it in more than one bike

Which was taken from the Aprilia Caponord...a lighter, faster bike, only let down by appalling electrics.

DO NOT WANT! :sad2:

261kg dry weight bit of a porker, imagine all kitted up with bags and cargo :biggob:

I think thats the wet weight but your point is valid she's a fat lass:love9:

Go make yourselves a brew and get yourselves sat comfy, then click on the link below and scroll down a little...

http://www.infinitymotorcycles.com/

Dissapointment
 

Very dissapointed and surprised at Yamaha after all that lead up hype.
All Yam had to do was design and build a bigger version of our 660zs with all the latest tech.
Looks wise I agree with everyone else.....just another Vstorm, Varedo,etc, etc.
On a positive note....thanks for saving me money not to change.

<THUD>

I just hit the floor, jeeze

It's a lot for something that noone's going to get to ride before they buy it.

:agreed:

That about sums it up nicely Stumpy. And I prefer my old 90 landrover 2.5td for off roading, even my old ex army 2a light weight would go any where and even pulled a couple of RR out on while on off roading days.

Well .... first let me say that I'll be keeping my 660 ten as long as possible, but .... I'd like one of these too. I like it. Mind, I have a V Strom 1000 and have prayed to all the bike gods for years for an upgrade. Suzuki ... sneaky ******s .... have done it and re-badged it 'yamaha'!

I take all the points raised, especially where they pertain to heritage, tradition, pedigree, off-roading, etc. It's like any bike though, you pays-your-money-and-takes-your-choice. I have no doubt that it will sell. It's badged 'Tenere' (tick), it's like a GS1200 ((tick), it's capable of longer, more comfortable, road trips (tick), it's new (tick), it's appeal will be wider than hard-core, adventure, off roaders (tick).

Think what I'm saying is that we each look at our biking needs (albeit with a loud voice from the heart interrupting from time-to-time) and buy accordingly. I like to use my little Dr250/EXC250 for serious (for me anyway) off-roading, when the trail;s are tight and tough. I like to use my V Strom if I'm on a long road haul and when I want to surprise a few of the 'fast lads'. I like using the 660 Ten for when I'm doing a ,mixture of road/trail miles. Yes, I'm fortunate to have that choice. If I could only have one bike and my needs were wide - say commuting, touring, trailing - then something like the 660 ten is the very obvious choice.

After all the hype (which I personally rather enjoyed, as it got us all talking and opinionating at least) I found the Yamaha marketing and promotion really good. Like JMo, I thought the 360 degree feature especially interesting - would love to see it without the panniers though and look forward to seeing it in the flesh. It's interesting to see how they're pitching it .....

.... off-roading gets 'time for a little rear-whell steering in the dirt' ... yeah, right!!! whilst roads gets 'attack velocity in the twistys' !!! I guess as I've spent most of my years (probably self-deludingly!) in attack velocity, I'm getting quite excited by it !! If it's half as good as my V Strom in that way, it'll be worth a ride. So you can be both a Dakar and Moto GP god !!! Putting pictures in peoples heads is what sells bikes. they are a business, after all.

Also just looked on the infinity link above....�13499????

In todays climate......?? I am still in shock.

I just don't want! :080:

No, I'm just so dissappointed that they went for the lard assed pack mule segment instead of making a serious bike that could compete with the 990 adventure for example. I know that there is a market but I don't care, I want the Tener� brand to stand for something. Now it's just a Varadero with cool stripes nothing more. Depressing.

Yup, I was hoping for something like that. Oh well. after piloting my old Caponord (a lighter and more powerful bike than a GS) at a reasonable rate (ahem) I can say that the S10 when all fuelled up is going to be a hefty old barge to wang around.

Even more depressing when my local Honda dealer are selling VeraDuckworths at a little over 50% of the S10 cost...and yes, they are fully loaded for �7.5K from memory...

I helped to pick up one that fell off it's stand just after we got to the Dragon - yes they are 'fully loaded'. Apparently with lead.

For the same money....
 

you could have a brand new XL1000 Varadero (I've had two of these and they can scratch well and cover miles like you wouldn't belive)

On The Road Price (without discount) �8471,

Throw in a second hand XT660Z Tenere at around �4500, and you still have enough change to pay for a couple of weeks touring around Europe!


:love9:

and yet they are about the same weight as the new Super Tenere! (244Kg dry), and with the V-Motor will have a slightly lower COG.....

More or less what I decided to do in Nov 08

Bought a Tiger 1050 and XTZ Tenere for less than the price of a 1200GSA. IMO The Tenere is better than the GSA off road and the Tiger is better on. Pay double road tax ,slightly more insurance but other costs are more or less the same as I do the same mileage and can only ride one at a time:smilielol:

Forgive a post from a newbie.

I am highly pleased to see the new bike is made in Japan so the quality issues that some present day XT660 owners will be addressed.

I like the looks of the bike, taste is personal but I write this in sincerity that there are some replies here that rather read as 'sour grapes'? No one has even rode the bike yet and the comments are all based on pictures?

Now. For my small part and going only on the pictures I can't for the life of me identify the new bike as a Tenere? Take myself for an example, I have dropped her 3 or 4 times and only had to replace the brake lever. Can you imagine dropping the new bike, oh dear Lord it would cost a bloomin fortune in parts.
I THOUGHT the idea of a Tenere was to produce the equivalent of a 4X4 car? To this end it has to be practical, robust, in fact prepared to do the work of a 4X4?
With great respect for Yamaha I can't see this idea put into action on PICTURES of the new bike. Only time and customer comments will tell. Going to be an expensive trial and error though. Those beautiful side plastics and fan, well, lets see.

Ryland

In many ways it is exactly the equivalent of a 4x4 car...big, heavy, looks like it could ride round the world on dirt tracks but 90% of those sold will never leave the tarmac.

:D

Oh? Then that begs the question why change from the practical present Tenere to the new model? Its double+ the price but doesn't 'look' as capable or practical? Nice looking as it is.

Odd combination and mixture. Perhaps, then what do I know? NADA. Lol

Ryland

It'll be a lot more practical at carrying two people and luggage across europe on the motorway.

It'll be a lot less practical as an off-road bike than the 660, although it will be possible to ride it off-road and a minority will do so.

In other words, it's a Yamaha GS Adventure.

I wouldn't change from the 660 to the 1200, but I'm sure some will, and plenty will buy it who might otherwise have bought the BMW.

In all fairness, if I'd just paid �13 and a half thousand of my English pounds for this bike, I wouldn't take it anywhere near an unsealed road...