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stevied1969 14-12-09 19:17

Like Ricky says, they only do one size for each tyre
4.75-17 (For the Rear)
120/90-18 (For the people with proper trail bikes)
90/90-21 (For the front)

They definitely don't inspire confidence on the road as you can feel the blocks moving about a bit, but you do get used to it fairly quickly. When you first start riding on the road with them just take your time, make sure you slow down for corners in plenty of time and then just gently accelerate through them, the gentle acceleration (which is good style anyway) makes a huge difference into how comfortable the bike feels.

Off round a local 4*4 center all day this Saturday with the guys and girls from the West Yorkshire TRF (snow willing) so I will let you know how they feel on the dirt and hopefully will have plenty of pictures too.

mac-cos 14-12-09 19:25

To get a bit of diversity in the tyres used I thought I try the michelin T63s from the pics posted I think the michs have bigger blocks on the rear though front maybe similar, some Pics in T63 thread

Will probably try fitting these this weekend.
These have speed rating to 112mph so not a lot short of the potential top end.

uncle ricky 14-12-09 19:28

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Originally Posted by stevied1969 (Post 114185)
Like Ricky says, they only do one size for each tyre
4.75-17 (For the Rear)
120/90-18 (For the people with proper trail bikes)
90/90-21 (For the front)

They definitely don't inspire confidence on the road as you can feel the blocks moving about a bit, but you do get used to it fairly quickly. When you first start riding on the road with them just take your time, make sure you slow down for corners in plenty of time and then just gently accelerate through them, the gentle acceleration (which is good style anyway) makes a huge difference into how comfortable the bike feels.

Off round a local 4*4 center all day this Saturday with the guys and girls from the West Yorkshire TRF (snow willing) so I will let you know how they feel on the dirt and hopefully will have plenty of pictures too.

Don't let to much pressure out when you go off roading because you will spin the wheel and rip the valve from the tube unless you have fitted a rim lock. They have a very stiff side wall which you probaly found out when you fitted them.

Also another little tip nothing to do with the tyres, loosen off the allen bolts on your front brake and clutch levers a tad so that you can move them on the handle bars with a little effort, so WHEN you drop your bike the levers will rotate on the handle bars instead of bending or breaking, even if you have hand guards fitted. Mine are like that on mine and they were on all my enduro bikes which were dropped loads of times while racing and never busted a lever.

stevied1969 14-12-09 19:42

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Originally Posted by uncle ricky (Post 114188)
Don't let to much pressure out when you go off roading because you will spin the wheel and rip the valve from the tube unless you have fitted a rim lock. They have a very stiff side wall which you probaly found out when you fitted them.

Does dropping the pressure really make a lot of difference? I must admit I was just going to turn up on Saturday morning, point the Ten at the dirt and see what happens. Is it really worth dropping the pressure?

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle ricky (Post 114188)
Also another little tip nothing to do with the tyres, loosen off the allen bolts on your front brake and clutch levers a tad so that you can move them on the handle bars with a little effort, so WHEN you drop your bike the levers will rotate on the handle bars instead of bending or breaking, even if you have hand guards fitted.

That I was planning to do, would be gutted if I snapped a lever early on, although I may take a spare brake and clutch lever with me anyway, just in case!

DickyC 14-12-09 20:37

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Originally Posted by mac-cos (Post 114187)
To get a bit of diversity in the tyres used I thought I try the michelin T63s from the pics posted I think the michs have bigger blocks on the rear though front maybe similar, some rough pics attached

Will probably try fitting these this weekend.
These have speed rating to 112mph so not a lot short of the potential top end.

I was looking at these with interest. They seem to have the blocks but without the depth of the 'Army' tyres. A bit more stable maybe on the roads and cornering.

Be interested to here about these as well so please all, keep the reports coming. I know its only opinions from individuals who's riding styles and locations difer greatly but thats better than the marketing blurb from websites.

Looking forward to the report about the 'Army' tyre off road. Bet it will be great!

uncle ricky 14-12-09 21:44

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Originally Posted by stevied1969 (Post 114190)
Does dropping the pressure really make a lot of difference? I must admit I was just going to turn up on Saturday morning, point the Ten at the dirt and see what happens. Is it really worth dropping the pressure?


That I was planning to do, would be gutted if I snapped a lever early on, although I may take a spare brake and clutch lever with me anyway, just in case!

Me personally, I would run the rear at 25psi for off roading. You will very surprised at the different amount of grip you will get with less pressure. When racing I have only have 10-12 psi BUT the bike was only 100kg in weight (KTM 300) and the wheel was fitted with a rim lock (holds the tyre firmly to the wheel).

When I had the swiss army tyre fitted to the DRZ400 I would only have 12psi and that was for road work also, you soon get use to the tyre.

It is a Knobbly so you will have less grip on the road by the very nature of the tyre having less rubber in contact with the road, but you certainly won't get stuck when riding off road. You pays your money and takes your choice

jasext 15-12-09 00:36

Never had the chance to take the ten offroad but used to take my R version everywhere ,i used to run Pirelli mt21 as the bike was used mostly offroad and found that 20-22 psi was perfect ,sometimes went down to 18 but you are prone to compression punctures if you go any lower due to the weight .
There is only so much people can tell you about riding offroad but untill you go and try it you will be thrilled and back for more very soon ,and the cudos of taking a big bike where others take enduro bikes

Couple of old pics

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/DSC00157.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/DSC00006.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/DSC00026.jpg

banksy 19-12-09 11:15

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Originally Posted by mac-cos (Post 114187)
To get a bit of diversity in the tyres used I thought I try the michelin T63s from the pics posted I think the michs have bigger blocks on the rear though front maybe similar, some rough pics attached
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84...s/IMG_0033.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84...s/IMG_0032.jpg
Will probably try fitting these this weekend.
These have speed rating to 112mph so not a lot short of the potential top end.


Can i ask where you got these from and for how much?

mac-cos 19-12-09 12:11

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Originally Posted by banksy (Post 114609)
Can i ask where you got these from and for how much?

www.mytyres.co.uk prices on the website

uncle ricky 19-12-09 12:42

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Originally Posted by banksy (Post 114609)
Can i ask where you got these from and for how much?

Here you Banksy

http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl


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