Thanks guys, good info. I've actually got Keis heated gloves.....I mistakenly thought heated grips were far better! . I shall save the money and stick with the gloves. I ran them off a Keis power pack before as the XR650R has no battery. Now I have a bike with all mod cons I can do away with the power pack! And have them on the highest setting and not run out of juice! Joy! Steve