Thanks guy's , as for the Karoo 3 not had it on long ( 400 m approx ) put it on mainly for the soft ground / sand around Thetford where in my short trip it performed well , good drive and felt stable ( I'm no expert off road ) on dry Tarmac have not managed to find its limits but feel the stiff sidewalls will make it let go quickly rather than get any feel for the slide, not been tried on wet Tarmac yet. Cheers


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