Thanks guys...RD350 eh Pleiades, I was a KH triple man (boy!)myself and also clad in jeans, converse and leather jacket. My arch rival was a guy on an LC 350 ..just glad we survived those crazy but brilliant times!. And I think the most ear damage came from a Z900 with the meanest Yoshi 4 into 1. Earplugs were never a consideration back then but from about 6 years ago when I first tried them I now wouldn't be without them. I have always used cheap foam ones, but they sometimes seem to be creating there own noise..if that makes sense. I shall get the ones you pictured tomorrow and try them. Thanks again Steve