well they have done the job real well 
        
 
         heres a update ..the bags have done over 6k attached to the bike and around 2000 off road or on bumpy tracks 
         
        
 was kinda forced into using them ... bloody camping grr 
         
        
 but the ortilebs did there job brilliantly ...rain .. loads of big downpours ..rough rough roads and tracks always leaving the contents bone dry ..simple to open and stuff ..hard to fault them 
        
 they have been attached to the bike on all sorts of trails before morroco to practice and try out with weight ..taken a couple of slow speed tumbles 
        
 and proven themselves for over 4500 miles on a big trip 
        
 part of the succsess was managing to suport them with tool tubes which also made a handy lashing point which has no doubt helped ... all straps and lashing points are 100 percent intact ..i have been impressed with their performance ..cou[pled with a huge saving in weight 
         
        
 obviously if a pillion was to be carried they would be a good option ..
         
        
 on tyhe flip side i would say the teneres tucked exhausts lend themselves to these bags very well 
        
 a wider bike with a high exhaust may present more of a challenge to these or other makes ..without a rack fitted orbetter still a light frame welded up
         
        
 but for me they did a great job .. at no time did the ever buck slip become insecure or let water in 
         
        
 ive finished with camping for good .. so i may end up with just a big rack and a one dry bag [ortileb of course ]
         
        
 if your anti ally cans off road like me .. or just simply on a budget ,or a one off trip ..they are well worth alook 
         
        
 but if you take care on how you attach them ...they are a realy effective carrier 
         
         
        
 
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