ive decided on soft panniers for the ten 
        
 ive had them a few weeks now and tested them out off road 
         
        
 they are very light and take a lot of stuff 
        
 they have great stuffability and the simple fold over closure helps with this .. 
         
        
 each pannier has five quick realease fixing points but three released to remove .. 
        
 they have plastic stiffeners you secure youself with screws and clamps .. so the panniers keep a shape when empty or half full ..
        
 they are backed with a stiff but soft anti slip pad and grip the handrails and exhaust sheild well 
         
        
 by accident the tool tube set up on my ten is perfect for these panniers as the panniers sit on them and by total fluke the panniers have a handy velco strap that can sucure the bottom of the pannier to the tube prevent jolting up and down 
        
 i was dead jammy here as i wasnt thinking of the panniers at all when the tubes went on ..he he 
         
        
 they may be even a little too secure in a spill if you know what i mean 
        
 the fabric seems very tough and patchable though 
         
        
 they would be diffucult with a aftermarket can i think because of the heat and position but work realy well with the stock exhausts 
        
 they have been very secure on rough ground and dont jump up and down sag or rub as yet anyway .. 
        
 ive usedthem in the rain powerwashed them and they are 100 percent leak free so far 
         
        
 they take very little time to fit on and off with the quick release strap system .. 
         
        
 im sure everyones aware of the pros and cons ..but if your in the market for soft gear they seem to fit the bill 
         
        
 they seem well made and thought out im very pleased with them so far 
        
 and for soft panniers not many if any downsides .. except perhaps the price ..
         
        
 id say a pretty good good soft option ...135quid on ebay 
         
        
 
         
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