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Old 11-03-10, 19:02
Ryland Johnson Ryland Johnson is offline
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Originally Posted by zOU View Post
I thought only the PC V was compatible with the Tenere ... but I may be wrong (and certainly is obviously)


As I wrote before, I think you are trying to do too much, too fast.

Take your time, document yourself and I would recommend:

- not starting a work on the bike late in the day, but preferably early (shops opened, help available, clear mind, ...)
- get all the documentation before and read it thouroughly several time (including workshop manual, owner manual, part documentation)
- before unplugging anything and installing a new part, verify that you know what is where and how. Make sure that anything you do can be undone/fixed.
- search the forum for identical work carried and read the threads to benefit from other users experience.
- using a explicit title for your threads like : Where's the TPS conenctor on a Tenere or - Trouble fitting Power Commander on Tenere. "please help" doesn't help anyone and will not make your thread easy to find for future reference. Think that your threads should also help others and be easy to find.
- searching before starting a new thread: Watch this http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

As you said, you've been away from bike for a long time.
I would humbly recommend familiarising yourself with riding the bike and carrying basic maintenance before attempting performance modifications.
aka: chain/sprocket care, oil/filters replacements, suspension settings, brake maintenance.

The bike in its standard clothes fits 95% of its users. Including some very advanced riders.
The bike has been built by engineers and I believe that engine modifications should only be performed by informed professionals.


I personally do all my work on the bikes on saturday mornings and I'm done by sundown.
I do not always manage to do everything I planned, but I make sure that I have time to stop/re-assemble/get the bike running before sundown.

Then there's always the day after or the next w-e to complete the work.

but that's only my 2cents.
Hi,

Thanks for the reply You are indeed a wise person.

Oddly I work best after dinner? I am a natural night owl. Had I started the project in the morning the bike would now be..........well, it wouldn't be if you see what I mean. Lol

You are also correct when you write that the standard bike is great for 95% of its users. Problem with me is I joined this forum and learned all about the mods etc, lol. Big mistake.

I have spoken to mechanics in this country who do NOT suggest fitting a power commander to the Tenere as the wiring-electronics are not the same as the PC111 as for the bikes it was sold me for, ie 200-2007 XT660R.
As you write I have been away from bikes for 30 years and more. To this end I depend on trusting others.

I did want to tune the Tenere as I have found it rather 'agricultural', best discription would be akin to a diesel on streroids, lol. Guess what after spending rather a lot of cash I now have a noisier diesel that drinks petrol and has made such a tiny difference to the performance of the bike. One lives and learns.
Before I am shot, let me write this. I do get it, I do understand why we want all the mods and tit-bits we can change. I understand the psychology of our desires. Problem is I fear the sales people share the same psychology and sell things knowing they are window dressing and not 'always' money well spent.

This will prove to be a very unpopular post but since when I have been dishonest with my posts. I think we deserve better than we get regarding Yamaha (Italian quality just stinks), some dealers and certainly some of these so called mods.

My pertol consumption has dropped not improved. Why? well now I am supposed to have all these extra horses I am trying to use them or why would I have spent the cash buying the neddies in the first place, logic eh? Regardless of what we are told the more one uses the Right wrist the more the engine will drink. If we don't desire to use the Right wrist what the heck is the point in making the mods in the first place, just buy a 125!

All in all, I am disappointed with both DNA and Power commander. DNA, as the initial airfilter is a tad too small and is not a good fit out of the box PLUS to place an open side filter on an enduro is crazy, eventualy it has to get damaged? Just one drop in scrubland and a twig or some other small object will perforate the filter resulting in a new one..

Power commander can't even supply fitting instructions for the Tenere and the diagrams shown as absolutley useless. I don't own a 2004-2008 XT660R and the diagrams shown don't resemble in the slightest the Tenere? Why even put them in the box?
Further to be informed that it is "simple" to fit is just plain untrue. "Just undo the two back bolts on the tank and lift it a little etc" Pure fiction. Not even a baby could remove that plug in the space offered buy 'just lifting the tank and inch'. It is major work that needs side panels and all tank fixings removed with the tank being rainsed at least 3" to pass a hand under it. Then where is the "Trunk" mentiond in the fitting instructions to place the PC111? What bloomin trunk? As for the TPC fitting........give me a break. I ended up replacing that while being held upside down by a group of circus acrobates! I also had my small fingers made even smaller by some Amazon tribe! IT WAS HELL. I can laugh now but wow I could have committed a murder that night!

At present I am not a happy bunny with the quality of the bike, its just awful for Yamaha and not in the least impressed with these modifications. I fear most members who do make these modifications will believe they do well but do they realy make a difference? To suggest they save on petrol is also odd.............but..............

End of rant. Lol

A very BIG thank you to those who supported me through the initial stages of re learning the joys of bike ownership. The membership here is a true family.

I shall NOT be fitting any further so called mods to the Tenere. As you write it is a very good bike from the start.

Ryland
Post and be damned

Last edited by Ryland Johnson; 12-03-10 at 15:39.