Aye

Thanks for that. Although I`ve already ordered the mount and insert( dirt cheap,,buybits.com)
I got the ram mount second hand for a tenner so I`m not too worried aboot havin a play around with it. Might make up a clamp for the 12mm bar and ally weld the ram ball to it ! The ram arm should hold it out far enough and if I can secure it solidly enough I reckon it will do the biz, if not I`ll flog it an get the Touratech thingy.��

Talking of which ,,the fog lights they flog for 300 nicker,,,I got them for 60 quid from a local factors, homemade brackets and 40 for the guards,,hey presto! (suspect I may wait for the guards tho)