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RECALL throttle sensor
From MCN web:
"The second Safety Recall concerns the Throttle Position Sensor fitted to certain YZF-R1, FZ6N/S, FJR1300/A, TDM900/A, MT-01, XV1700PC & XT660R/X manufactured between 2002 and 2006. In a small number of cases, the idle speed may become intermittently unstable, causing the engine to stall. In the same way as the XV1600 Safety Recall, owners of the affected machines, held on our database, will receive a letter very soon advising them of the steps to take to have their machines rectified. They can continue to use their motorcycles in the meantime. On behalf of the Yamaha Factory and Yamaha Motor UK, we would like to apologise to all affected customers for this inconvenience and assure them of our best attention to rectify the problems at the earliest possible time." |
Thank you very much XTC for this important new, and we are glad that Yamaha has made an official recall on these tps's, would you happen have the mcn link to this notice that you mentioned?
Many thanks |
Im not sure if you can read this ok ,but this is what they are saying in MCN about it .
Fran it maybe a good idea for you to contact Yamaha direct to get an official to comfirm this recall. http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...low/recall.jpg |
Just spoken to my local dealer regarding TPS. Only a limited recall on a range of frame no.s. Apparently the o-ring between the butterfly and the tps breaks up and stops the sensor working. Yamaha are going to contact affected owners, wait for the letter!!!
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Thanks a lot for the link FostersMonster
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I reckon my bikes one of them, it only happens maybe once a fortnight but will I beable to get it sorted in France as the bike is UK registered?
How do they know my uk address if im the second owner? |
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Gents,
Correct me if I am wrong, but our motorcycles are issued with a Yamaha Europe Service Card. The warranty is valid in all EU nation-states, and beyond in line with the general warranty conditions. Example: I experienced a complete rear shock absorber failure in Norway this last summer with my Dutch registered motorcycle that was bought in the Netherlands. However, Yamaha Norway honored my warranty by replacing the shock absorber under warranty. Therefore, I suspect that this is question of an internal processes. Since most of the parts for the European market come from Yamaha Europe located in Schipol-Rijk in the Netherlands, I suspect that warranty parts and warranty labor is invoiced internally within the European Yamaha organization. Regards, J |
You might well be right however the recall was issued, it appears, directly from Yamaha UK, and I know of someone who bought an XTR in UK as an import from the Netherlands and their ECU was refused replacement in UK.
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CaptMoto,
That is awful, and in violation of the warranty that is given for the EU region. I would put my attourney on it....... I just consulted my Dutch Yamaha Euro Service Handbook. On page 7, under paragraph 'Travel abroad', under point 1 I translate the following: 'Always bring your Yamaha Euro Service Card with you when travelling. In the event that you experience technical problems with your Yamaha product, you can have the defect part replaced without cost at an official Yamaha dealer in Europe, if the conditions mentioned in the warranty handbook have been fulfilled'. With other words, if you have serviced the motorcycle with an official dealer, and followed the general conditions of the warranty, any defect that is subject to replacement under warranty MUST be replaced free of charge within the EU region. This includes the ECU to mention one thing..... I therefore suggest three things: 1) Speak to the dealer in question. Attend him/her about the conditions of the warranty, bring the books with you, and let them read the smallprint! If these conditions are not adhered to, Yamaha France and UK will be contacted. 2) Submit a formal complaint with BOTH Yamaha France and Britain, explaining the nature of the problem, the fact that dealer X has refused to assist, and a request for a new ECU under warranty. 3) If nothing helps, put an attourney on the case. I am sure that some legal help can illuminate the responsible persons that warranty conditions cannot be changed onesidedly and without mutual conscent. PS. I have replaced the following under warranty: 1 X right rear turn signal 1 X complete handle bar assembly left (low, high beam, horn) 1 X ECU 1 X Rear shock absorber 1 x saddle Regards, Johan |
First things first, I dont think Yamaha are going to send me the letter, cos I didnt fill in the form in the warranty book. So who shall I call? Yamaha UK? If so do you have their no pls Fran?
If my bike is on the list I shall speak to them and explain the situ, then try to get it sorted at the local Yamaha dealers here....... Maybe someone can get hold of the details of the affected machines somehow, I dont see why they cant divulge that info? |
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Thanks for that Capt, have PMed the details to you
Steve |
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And a dodgy tickover is?
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well you go tell them!! :cry[1]:
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@CaptMoto,
Bluntly speaking, I really don't think it matters. Let me explain by using two fictive examples: If I am in the United Kingdom on a holiday with my Dutch XT, and something breaks due to material failure, then I am entitled to gain assistance and have the part replaced under warranty via the Yamaha Euro Service program. If I am living in the United Kingdom temporarily as an expat, assigned by my Dutch employer to a six month project, commute to work with my Dutch XT, and something breaks due to material failure, than I will not be entitled to gain assistance and have the part replaced under warranty via the Yamaha Euro Service program. It just does not make sense. The EU region should offer the exact same warranty conditions of the entire geographical area involving the member states. From a legal perspective, I personally believe that the conditions should be applied this way. However, I know that there are other factors involved in situations like this. British dealers would of course help a travelling tourist without a doubt, but the situation could turn out differently if you are living for a longer period of time in a country with a foreign bike, or if you have imported it. The compensation for the labour spent on replacing parts under warranty is not royal to say the least. This does not motivate a dealer to be willing to replace ECU's or stuff like that, since other customers are waiting to have other maintenance activities conducted or having aftermarket parts mounted for a greater profit margin on the hours spent on their bikes. Since I subscribe to the idea that the origin of the bike should not matter, nor the place where the warranty repairs are made, I would like to say that in a better world this would be a logical right of the owner and not an exception in individual cases. I have replaced my rear shock absorber under warranty in Norway, my saddle was replaced under warranty in Sweden, although my motorcycle has Dutch license plates. :headbang: Johan |
TPS Recall in the rest of the world??
We are all aware that at least in the UK, Yamaha has issued a nationwide recall on the TPS for the XT's and other bikes in the Yamaha range, but so far I have not heard of this recall in other parts of Europe or indeed the rest of the world.
Can any of you people from places other than UK, confirm if such recall has also been issued in your individual countries? Thanks |
America have also had a recall .
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got my recall letter will phone dealer tomorrow
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We know the recall has been enforced nationwide in the UK, thanks.
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Haven`t heard nothing from my dealer in Norway about the TPS recall....
Will send my dealer a mail to check it up |
Thank you PJS, that will be really helpful
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My Dutch dealer has confirmed the recall in accordance with the information posted on the internet. Grabbed an article from the German magazine Der Spiegel with frame numbers and everything, which was cross referenced with Yamaha Technical Services in the Netherlands.
Recall is in effect in the Netherlands as well thus..... |
Yamaha Australia has recalled many models for the throttle position sensor but the xt660 is not on the list yet.
http://www.recalls.gov.au/view_recal..._ID_Auto=14433 |
Austria is different
It seems that in Austria nobody knows anything about a Recall :102:
No Dealer had ever heard from a problem with Throttle -sensor :018: |
Not sure where to post it but I 've been looking around for a while through this threads and can't find out what should be the new setting of the last replaced TPS. What is the correct position along with a snorkel out and a K&N filter?
Thanks |
hi folks, phoned the previos owner for the letter, no joy.
got onto yammy uk and they sent the recall letter to me which i took to my yammy dealer, they are going to ring me when the tps part comes in. hope it dont take to long. im hoping me xtx runs abit smoother when its replaced. Do you no, when they replace the tps, will they tune her or is it job done. thanks for any replys. |
it takes the mechanic 10 minutes to do it, unscrew the old one and refit the new one, most of them prefer not to alter your idle speed settings in case you have a power commander that is linked to a predesigned map and they don't want to mess that up. but its an easy enough job for them to do it so, don't worry they shouldn't alter any of your settings.
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Still waiting for mine...went into dealer 18 Nov and was told there is a bit of a backlog...end of December hopefully.
Hi xtfreak.....me in Essex too...sunny Brentwood :icon_sunny: |
went into yamaha dealar today they knew about the tps and i should be getting a letter soon
sweden |
I recieved my recall letter today. I am the second owner of my XTX and they tracked me down via my RTA ( roads and traffic authority ) records. I'll put it in for the TPS recall in the next 2 weeks and post my findings
john. PS , although mine has the kev mod , i'll ask them to just change the TPS and i'll do the rest |
I recieved a letter as well from Yamaha Netherlands. They tracked me down as a registered owner. Will contact my dealer to have the part replaced.
Regards, Johan |
Ok, I might be dragging this thread up but Ive just seen it :P
My bike is a 54 and I dont know if it has been effected by this or its been already done. Is there a way I can find out? And if its not been done would it still be covered and be done FOC? |
The faulty TPS range.
Any TPS below 46 is now in the faulty range, A1 or A2 versions included. 2009 > XT's now come with a different TPS again & it looks completely different to the one shown below. http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...tyTPSRange.jpg |
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Bloooomin heck Ted, you turn up everywhere! PS Welcome to the forum Steve:wave: |
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