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here i think i've done links to photos
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/y...g?t=1247690812 it was a piece of perspex stopping the chooks from digging up me tomato plants. its bus shelter grade long story but not nicked!! around 4-5mm and 2 zip ties and a bit of pipe lagging quick job before the journey and worth it... no patent have a go. cheers for the ideas. |
Are you leaving that on???
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at the mo yes till i have the time to get something better rigged up. might make it bigger so i could put a map on it?????. not really bother what it looks like as long as it works...
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Try one of these seen here http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=10165 It cured the buffeting/turbulence for me 100% and it has a practical use also. Use it as a small bag if you dont want/need sat nav. My bag is on all the time now even if the tomtom isnt fitted. |
i can do one of these for a �5-00 to xt660.com people
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39788003@N06/3654492369/ works a treat and you can shape it with scissors to suit your own personal needs |
I went a similar route as Pete and installed the
Tuareg Lenkertasche from Heinz Garlick. It gives me some extra storage space and cures the buffeting entirely.
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Hein Gericke bag works for sure, ten pounds well spent!
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The bag has worked for me as well, and it's a useful place to keep the disc lock. I'm am still going to invest in the TT screen extender as well
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http://samwise.smugmug.com/photos/31108813_uKDrm-M.jpg http://samwise.smugmug.com/photos/77896703_uptGA-L.jpg Click the above for the full-size picture You can just about see the semi-circular flap that was attached to the bike as standard by Honda. |
I have checked a BMW 800 GS last week.
The BMW had a turbulence stopper in the fork gap also. It consists of two pieces, one in the front and one in the back of the fork. Together it�s a full circle. At some details you can see really good solutions at the BMW. The shape of the Tenere fuel tank around the fork is making it difficult to use a solution like this. Because the gap isn�t a circle. I believe this part of the Tenere was designed on a Monday Morning. ;) Regards ToKi |
Here's a better view of the Dominator one:
http://samwise.smugmug.com/photos/644989783_dbz2Y-O.jpg Shouldn't be expensive, either - BikeBandit in the USA quotes $31.64 |
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can you please tell me what the overall height of this is.. I am getting one cut, but need the overall height thanks.. |
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Please |
I printed the picture, took my ruler and a rule of 3 based on the other dimensions tell me: 16cm approx
now I'm sure you can get a much more accurate dimension using a proper software able to measure the distance between 2 points. |
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Personally, the buffeting doesn't bother me - maybe something to do with my size and shape, or the (non-peaked) lid I wear, or the fact I always wear earplugs, or just that I have low expectations :D This opinion may change come the summer if I start doing more riding in my MX lid. |
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air coming through there would directly "hit" the tank and be directed upwards to the rider. opening best seen on this picture: http://home.planet.nl/~scho3025/Tene...r/P1020885.JPG I've my dad to make me a aluminium version of the turbulence stopper. This way I can still mount the fog lights on it |
I assume that these two small openings are hardly of any influence, compared to the wide open gap right underneath.
In the picture shown (my bike) you can see the WindCOMB up in the 'duct' formed by the shape of the tank. The idea behind it, is not to block the wind gust, but to disperse it. Other solutions (mounted on the bar, or underneath the headlight) are based are diverting the wind gust instead. HJ |
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these 2 openings may just create a current drawing enough air to create turbulences. anyone got a wind tunnel to make some tests ? :D :D |
I'm referring to this area:
http://home.planet.nl/~scho3025/Tene...uctOpening.jpg which aims directly at the gastank of which the smooth shape forms a very nice tunnel that directs the wind gust to the rider's chest and chin. The radiator is positioned below that area. HJ |
I wasn't saying you were wrong (or are), just that i noticed these opening this morning and wondered if they could have an influence :)
after all, a small spoiler on the screen makes a big difference, why a small opening wouldn't make one :) I'll block them with duct tape to give it a try ;) |
I agree with "singleminded" that the area he has highlighted is the main issue of air getting channeled up into the cockpit, the gaps in the head light would assist in this issue but IMO
only very minor compared to under the headlight. But hey! try it! but i don't think it'll help much. A quick test would be to duct-tape the gaps up, go for a ride down the freeway then pull over (while still on the freeway) and take the tape off and then get going again and see if you can spot the difference.
I find on the days that buffeting is bad... i just suck it up! it's all part of the bike's character.. it's just the same as ya missus - gotta take good with the bad :eusa_shifty:. If i wanted everything to be smooth and wonderfull i would have bought a "Goldwing" :laughing7: |
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However, I would imagine a degree of air flow is required up through the forks under the fairing in order to fill the partial vacuum created behind the fairing when traveling at speed (which could cause other issues) and also vent enough headwind to help reduce any "barn-door" aerodynamics. Could definitely do with blocking some of that wind off though!! |
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This thread just reminded me I still need to carry out the windcomb mod.
better get to a builders merchants later |
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I'm of the opinion that the main source of turbulence is from the trailing edges of the screen, which tunnel the airstream directly into the sides of your helmet.Has anyone got not neccessarily a taller version of the screen, but a wider one to deflect air away from the sides of the riders head??
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I did consider to attach some WindCOMB along the side and top edges of the windshield, just to see what effect it would have in reducing turbulence. Never tried it...
HJ |
My screen is scratched so I figure If I wreck it then I will just get an MM screen in a replaCEMENT.
My plan is to drill 4 holes in my screen, near the top in a box pattern to give me a good fixing point then my idea is to get a big sheet of perspex and play around with different designs to see what works best. My initial plan will just be a small flipper but obviously it will be easy to try a much wider version too. Using rubber spacers I can also experiment with angles, will post when I know more |
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...swan/001-1.jpg I have an xtx and as you can see from the attached photos (one has been on here before), I have made a screen, I initially mounted the bottom of the screen behind the front spoiler and there was a forward suction of my jacket when on the move and some turbulence to the top of my helmet, so I moved the screen forward in front of the spoiler with a gap of about three quarters of an inch at the base, and ay voo as they say in France no suction or turbulence, but my visor when open on first click shuts at about 73 mph without fail. ---- Its probably the pressure behind the z screen thats doing the damage
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n1swan/002.jpg |
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even without the screen at all, there is still turbulence .. |
There's been some neat ideas here for dealing with turbulence and I must get round to trying the wind-comb solution.
Regarding wind blast, I suppose it depends on how fast you want to cruise at but given the brittle plastic cowling that the Tenere's screen is mounted to I'm surprised my standard screen hasn't been ripped off it's mountings at some of the speeds I've achieved (on private roads, of course!) Would be interesting to hear from long term users with tall screens but personally I would have thought support rods/rails connected to the fairing frame would be better than just relying on well nuts and that plastic cowling. You might also want to consider dropping the gearing to help it punch through the wind better - unless you've done all the Kev mods of course! ;-) As for increased fuel consumption????!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Lower gearing helps though - to a point) Was there ever a 650cc single trail bike that had any better wind protection? '90's XTZ660? KLR650? DR650RS? (and certainly not DR800S!!) I guess there's only so much wind protection that a relatively light weight sit-up-and-beg style bike with sub 50hp can cope with. Still, with regular 60-65mpg, I'm happy enough. |
the XF650 was fantastic with handling the wind
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yep.. it was a great bike.. never sold well here in Oz.. it was WAY ahead of it's time..
when I worked in a bike shop about 1.5yrs ago, we traded a XF650 in.. it had 50 odd thousand km's and I really thought we were going to be stuck with it.. I advertised it online and the next morning I had approx. 30 emails from people wanting to buy it.. the biggest response we ever had to a bike ad.. sold it a few days later.. a few months later it suffered the now infamous 3rd gear "problem" that some DR's seem to experience.. the bloke ended up doing a full bottom and top end rebuild as well as all new gears, selectors etc.. he absolutely loved the thing |
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interesting deflector shield ! Can you post an close up ? What mounting have you used ? Regards ToKi |
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Toki, It's a homemade copy of http://www.aerotrim.co.za/index.html They even have a Tenere specific one now... http://www.aerotrim.co.za/cart/fyl6_vo6_p0499_00.jpg I used a CNC Router to cut the parts out of perspex for the sheild and a softer plastic for the supports. Nick. |
Thank you Nick !
Regards ToKi |
I got a Touratech spoiler, im no longer having turbulance problems.
I guess it all depends on your length |
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