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Molgan 16-11-08 02:14

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Originally Posted by Stridey (Post 73607)
Hi
Have you thought about Trelleborg Army Specials. Available in 21" and 17".
They have a good block pattern and I have used them off road on a Cagiva 600 W16 with reasonable confidence and they seem to wear well on the road. Reasonable priced aswell in UK and the importer is located in Cornwall I seem to recall.

No I haven't, because I thought they only came with studs. :) It's the tire mostly used for winter driving in snow and ice up here. Compared to the TKC80 (if you have tried them), how is the grip on tarmac?

Stridey 16-11-08 23:34

Hi Molgan

No, the ones i bought earlier this year don't have ice studs in for the Uk anyhow.
Good grip on road with reasonable grip off road in very muddy conditions. Not bad for a dual purpose tyre.
I bought a pair for about �90.00.

Trelleborgs i think now made by MITAS in Czech republic?

They seem a good tyre reasonable priced.
visit website www.trelleborgtyres.co.uk/category_Trail_1.htm
let me know what you think

josephau 30-11-08 23:00

After I tried the muddy condition with my Tourance tires, I thought of this post. Yes, I slid on the first stretch of mud, no harm done to machine or rider. Now the bike is beautifully dirty. Given my usage is mainly on-road and some offroad, say 75/25, this post seems to have praise on TKC80 and Mitas E06 which look would fit best to my needs. From the optic perspective, the TKC80 is much knobbier (hence more offroad oriented) than the Mitas. So am I correct to assume the Mitas is not as good offroad as the TKC80? If so, then TKC wouldn't be as good on highway/onroad and its useful life would be shorter than the Mitas? I would welcome any fact, experience, opinion on your usage, especially with regards to handling (on/off road plus highway) and useful life. My Tourance tires are coming up for a change soon, so I like to prepare myself.

Gerhard Beukes 01-12-08 00:03

tyred of tyres???
 
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Hi there, i have experience with both TKC80 and Tourance and i can tell you to stay away from mud with the Tourance. We did trip few weeks ago, me on XT with Tourance front and rear, and KTM SE with TKC's on front. The TKC outperformed the Tourance in muddy conditions as well as sand as well as wet gravel roads. We both were taken out by mother earth:072: as you can see from piccies at one stage, TKC's need some momentum to get rid of mud, and at slow speed it is like a SM tyre in mud.

So now i am running Maxxis 6006 rear,and TKCfront. Good combo for 50/50 riding. Also have Tourance still in garage, but there is no way i change tyres for every ride on tarmac or dirt. Most of my rides end up in the dirt anyway. H?ave heard of guys getting 11 000km from front TKC's and 6000km on rear MAXXIS. Guess it all dependes on how you drive...on dirt and tarmac.

JMo 01-12-08 07:48

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Originally Posted by josephau (Post 74908)
Given my usage is mainly on-road and some offroad, say 75/25, this post seems to have praise on TKC80 and Mitas E06 which look would fit best to my needs. From the optic perspective, the TKC80 is much knobbier (hence more offroad oriented) than the Mitas. So am I correct to assume the Mitas is not as good offroad as the TKC80? If so, then TKC wouldn't be as good on highway/onroad and its useful life would be shorter than the Mitas?

That is a fair assumption, but I think you'll be surprised just how good the TKC80's are on-road, for what is essentially a 'knobbly' tyre - they are very predicable, and as someone (Hanz I think) has said, seem made for this bike.

They really are the best compromise tyre I have used... the Pirelli MT21 was not as surefooted on-road, and the rear didn't last more than about 2800 miles of mixed dirt and highway use.

I've fitted TKCs now, and just replaced the rear after about 3500 miles - it wasn't dead, but pretty useless off-road by then - you'd still get at least 500-1000 miles more on road though I imagine...

If you do use your Tenere off-tarmac, then go for the TKC80s - you won't be disappointed...

xxx

stuxtttr 05-12-08 13:07

Rock and Roll
 
The TK's are the way my steed shall roll when I wear out the originals. I prefer to sacrifice a little on road grip for a much better all terrrain tyre. The chances of loosing it on the road due to knobblies is much slimmer than the numerous falls you will encounter as soon as you leave it on the Tourances.:guitar player:

gregor 06-12-08 11:33

I can't wait to try the TKC's reading all the above feedback.

Having fitted MT21s recently I'm rather dissapointed in how they feel on tarmac, certainly nowhere near as good as when I had them on a DRZ.
It may just be a case of playing around with the pressures and since dropping from 30psi to 25 I have more confidence in grip now.

Still much better than the motorcross front I fitted previously:toothy10: The phrase ' handles like a pig on stilts' comes to mind.

Offroad I can't fault them and conversely suit the Tenere better than the DRZ. Possibly down to the extra weight and smoother power delivery, getting very little wheelspin and less front end slithering at low speed in really sticky mud.

But given that I'm doing a fair bit of road riding also, sometimes with a pillion, they are too 'offroad' and spoil the Tenere's handling.

Good job I have a very large tub of tyre soap.

Here's a pic for anyone who hasn't seen the Pirelli for comparison with the TKC posted earlier.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/...1b3ff1d452.jpg

stuxtttr 08-12-08 03:27

Your comments on the mx front tyre remind me of a funny deal that i **** out on in portugal. My rear had worn out so they ordered me a new one and after many manjanas waiting it arrived only it was a soft as hell knobbly mx sand tyre still it didnt stop me riding back to the UK on it, it was sketchy to start with but quickly wore down to bearable.:icon_evil:

josephau 09-12-08 15:02

Just got my TKC80 tires. Only rode 10km so far, and the initial feedback is it is different. It seems the bike always wants to lean, yet it feels that it has more grip than the Tourance. Question: what tire pressure I should put in? It says 40psi or 2.8 bar on the tires when measured cold and the same for both front and back. Is that right? And what about offroad, as the Tourance has different pressures between on- and off-road. Any tips would be appreciated.

mudcrawler 04-02-09 14:44

Tkc 80 / Mt21
 
I find MT 21 good for real off-road, but wears quite fast. TKC 80 is better for asphalt / Gravel and lasts longer. This is for rear. Front I use any cross-tyre.. I ride a lot enduro and use the front tyre from the enduro bike when i need to renew it on my off-roader. MT 32 normally. Pressure 1.2 - 1.5 max.


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