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garyb 13-05-08 11:25

Cracking Akropovics
 
I have the SP Series pipes on my XTX which are cracking on the flange where the canister joins the pipe from the engine. Anybody else having this problem. I emailed Akropolvic, no reply yet. I sugest to all who have these pipes to take a good look, the only reason I picked this up is I had them off and was cleaning them. They are very fine cracks.

Kev 13-05-08 12:46

No I have not seen this before.:Mandy:

meach 13-05-08 13:22

Why not pop over to the newbies section and introduce yourself while you are here mate

Worry Brother 13-05-08 14:46

garyb,

I have had my akra's fitted now for 15+months and no issues whatsoever.
Sorry to hear that matey.

Keep pushing akrapovic for an answer

Cheers

WB

CaptMoto 13-05-08 16:08

Yes I agree it must be a freak occurrance, none of the people I know with Akrapovic exhausts on the XT's never had such issues. If the are still covered by warranty they should be replaced or repaired by those you've bought them from. Unless they were 2nd hand in which case your only option is to find a specialized TIG welder.

nein 14-05-08 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by garyb (Post 55428)
I have the SP Series pipes on my XTX which are cracking on the flange where the canister joins the pipe from the engine. Anybody else having this problem. I emailed Akropolvic, no reply yet.

I have seen this before. The very same thing happened to a another spanish forum member. He did not manage to get Akrapovic to repair it.

garyb 16-05-08 10:25

Just got word from akropovic they say I must contact the distributor. What will they know, they only sell the pipes.

cam147 04-06-08 17:08

i have also got his problem, i have just bought a set second hand and noticed a hairline crack, it is the same place i think, where the can joins the link pipe, the crack is on the can just where you attach a spring. I am not a happy chappy!! . have you had any luck from akrapovic?

CaptMoto 04-06-08 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by cam147 (Post 57641)
i have also got his problem, i have just bought a set second hand and noticed a hairline crack, it is the same place i think, where the can joins the link pipe, the crack is on the can just where you attach a spring. I am not a happy chappy!! . have you had any luck from akrapovic?

Oh Nooo, you are not having much luck, are you? Honestly I thought with all that money people spend on these Akros that they would at least be made as durable as possible. This is now the 2nd set that we've heard of with welding failure.

Sorry to hear that

Not impressed by Akrapovic

Redfoxx 05-06-08 12:11

no problem with mine!!!

g-tec 11-06-08 17:57

Here few people had problem with Akras and it was on other bikes such as GSXR 1000 and few other sport bikes.

garyb 12-06-08 09:14

Akropovic say you will have to contact your distributer. No distributer in NZ so I left it at that. I have stop drilled the cracks on my pipes and they have not progressed any futher. That part that cracks is stainless steel so its a lot easier to weld than titanium. I am looking for some rubber mounts that have the same thread as the mount on the frame. I will let you all know when I find something.

Mattithyahu 28-08-08 09:10

Just wondering: are those steel cans or titanium?
No problems with mine btw. Or none of my friends.

nein 28-08-08 09:21

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Originally Posted by Mattithyahu (Post 66081)
Just wondering: are those steel cans or titanium?
No problems with mine btw. Or none of my friends.

The ones I have seen cracked were titanium ones.

Nathan 02-09-08 16:31

My ones are titanium- not a single crack anywhere. Absolutely beautifully made exhausts. And how come that no matter how hard I thrash the bike, the cans never get too hot to put my hand on them? Weird! Is Ti that good at heat dissipation?

CaptMoto 02-09-08 16:37

Nathan I am surprised you seem to know a lot about suspensions and physics, but you didn't know that after market cans (that's all of them, regardless of the brand) don't get hot because.... the hot exhaust gases don't stay long enough in them to retain heath???? (through the lack of cat converters and noise damping restrictions)

:book1:

Nathan 02-09-08 19:54

I questioned it because I have had over 40 bikes in my time, many with cans of all sorts. My last, a Hayabusa with stainless microns, got plenty hot. as did my ZXR750 and ZX10 with stainless cans.

And yes, they were all straight-through as well. I can only guess it's because my XTX ones are Ti.

I have never had Ti cans before and I have made my assumption on the heat issue being what they were constructed from, not because they are straight-through or indeed have a lack of converters as you suggest.

pauli 03-09-08 15:07

Not just Ti cans but my brushed aluminium Leo's don't get hot either. Even after a one hour thrash you can put your hands on them - can't wait 'til the winter :icon_king:

motonacio 03-09-08 15:13

I can't fry eggs on my carbons :CCC: - the longs here in UK and the stubbies in Spain where you would expect them to get really really really hot - they don't - but the pipes do. blowup blowup

garyb 04-04-09 08:28

I stop drilled the cracks on mine with a 3mm drill and they have not gone any futher. I will weld them when they need re-packing one day.

Interceptor 27-02-10 22:08

Just found small cracks on my Akra Ti cans. They are SP series cans which I bought fitted on my 05 XTX and they had little metal stickers covering the 'NOT FOR ROAD USE' stamps. Are all SP cans stamped like this or do they have the option of a Db killer.

Anyone successfully repair these tiny cracks?

Thanks.

CaptMoto 27-02-10 22:18

Look in the yellow pages for a ti welder and give them a ring.

Sadly this must be the 7th or 8th case we hear of in this forum about Akrap cans going crack on the XT's. These are supposed to be not only the most expensive exhausts on the market but also supposed to undergo the most strict tests possible.

If they are under warranty send them back, they will replace them for new.

Interceptor 27-02-10 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 121735)
If they are under warranty send them back, they will replace them for new.

No - not under warranty, bike bought second hand in the UK last week and exported/imported into Ireland so I doubt any warranty is still valid. The bike is a 2005 XTX with 5000 miles on it. I'm tempted to sell the Akras on ebay as they are just too loud - its only a matter of time before the long arm of the law lifts me.

'cptr

gianni1951 28-02-10 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by garyb (Post 55428)
I have the SP Series pipes on my XTX which are cracking on the flange where the canister joins the pipe from the engine. Anybody else having this problem. I emailed Akropolvic, no reply yet. I sugest to all who have these pipes to take a good look, the only reason I picked this up is I had them off and was cleaning them. They are very fine cracks.

Yes, at my friend it happens, with the same can three years old. Akrapovic ask to send them the defective can. They analized, recognized responsability also out of warranty, they don't repair, but sent back nto my friend two news can. Great Akra.

You have to ask to local importer and send in Akra the cans.

Ciao.

agricon 28-02-10 20:32

Is the SP series pipe the 2 pipe system or the 2 into 1? I ask as I have just fitted the Akropovic 2 into 1 on my bike
Thanks

Interceptor 28-02-10 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by agricon (Post 121842)
Is the SP series pipe the 2 pipe system or the 2 into 1? I ask as I have just fitted the Akropovic 2 into 1 on my bike
Thanks

its the 2 can system on mine - here it is

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/...Picture021.jpg

CC XT660 28-02-10 23:17

clean bike mate!! I had the EXACT same issue, fine cracks where the link pipes joined (inlet cap) I took photos of the cracks, emailed akrapovic and they sent me a brand new set, which are a later model also, they arrived within 3 weeks and they took the old one's back, I even explained to them I bought the bike second hand with them on, they didnt seem to care i didnt actually purchase them

still not 100% happy with them though as the clamps put shocking marks on the cans, and the left can always turns out slightly and needs re adjusting, i should of asked akrapovic how much to just upgrade to 2into1 as they were sending me new one's anyway

Interceptor 28-02-10 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC XT660 (Post 121877)
emailed akrapovic and they sent me a brand new set

I'll eat the inlet snorkel off my bike if this works. I'll give it a go and see what they say - I owe you pints if it works...

'cptr

agricon 02-03-10 08:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 121861)
its the 2 can system on mine - here it is

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/...Picture021.jpg

Cheers,
looking at your picture the pipes look the same so I will need to keep an eye out for it happening to mine.

Interceptor 01-04-10 18:16

Unbelieveable - I just got two brand spanking new cans from Akrapovic. I sent the old ones back and they said that as a 'goodwill gesture' they would replace them even though they were out of warranty.

I know I promised to eat the inlet snorkel off my bike - its probably not a good idea since any new owner might want it.

Anyone want to recommend a charity and I'll make a donation on behalf of the people here who suggested I contact Akra for replacements?

'cptr

gianni1951 01-04-10 19:14

I'm not sure to understand. They have replaced or not ????

Ciao.

Mike Wright 01-04-10 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 125022)
Unbelieveable - I just got two brand spanking new cans from Akrapovic. I sent the old ones back and they said that as a 'goodwill gesture' they would replace them even though they were out of warranty.

I know I promised to eat the inlet snorkel off my bike - its probably not a good idea since any new owner might want it.

Anyone want to recommend a charity and I'll make a donation on behalf of the people here who suggested I contact Akra for replacements?

'cptr


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CC XT660 02-04-10 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by gianni1951 (Post 125026)
I'm not sure to understand. They have replaced or not ????

Ciao.

Yes Gianni, They replaced!

SelinaXC 02-04-10 08:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC XT660 (Post 125054)
Yes Gianni, They replaced!

Oh I do love a happy ending! Great customer service from Akro.
Selina

leonidas25 06-04-10 10:24

2 times crashe my akrapovic.first time crash in the same place,and second only one exchaust in same place.

Interceptor 06-04-10 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Wright (Post 125031)
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Done!

Thanks again,

'cptr

iShoe 05-08-10 00:47

how come no one posted a pic :) photo is much better then written words... still cant understand how do this cracks looks exactly :smilies0225:

Tony660x 05-08-10 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by iShoe (Post 134959)
how come no one posted a pic :) photo is much better then written words... still cant understand how do this cracks looks exactly :smilies0225:

A sample from an actual XT660X with a crack.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...Akrapovics.jpg

dazmatic 05-08-10 11:10

If that isn't a welded joint then its possible from rolling the metal that it got thinner and work hardened making it brittle and more suseptible to vibration cracking.

iShoe 05-08-10 12:09

OMG :O ! daaamn :mad:


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