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Calling PeteNZ need help with Rekluse
Pete,
Please help. Have installed the Rekluse and can't get it to work. Did you leave the original Boss sping, seat and narrow friction disk at the bottom of the stack? Did you then install another steel drive, friction disk and another steel drive on top of the original Boss sping, seat and narrow friction disk? Did you then install the EXP clutch and the remaining steel drives and friction disks on top of the EXP or did you put the EXP clutch on top of the stack? Also how many friction disks and steel drive plates did you leave out? I left out 2 of each. Hope you get this plea ASAP. Thanks Robo |
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PM sent... but in case anyone ealse is interested... 2 off each... no that won't work... I only removed 3 fibers / 2 steel plates from the outside of the stack.. the rest is as Mr Yamaha instaled them... So from the out side the order is... Pressure plate / Fiber / Steel / Rekluse unit / Steel... then remaining stack as per Yamaha.. the Rekluse unit has friction marteral on each side so has to between steel plates.... the pressure plate ingauges with the clutch hub so it has to be in contact with a fiber friction plate as they ingauge with the basket... The trick is to look at the Rekluse unit as a thick fiber friction plate.... PS..................... The pic of the unit in the XT clutch is a bit misleading... as it was only to show that the WR450 rekluse EXP dose infact fit in the XT clutch... the amont of removed plates & postion in the clutch is not correct.... Maybe one of us should post a pic with it set up correctly to save any confusion in the future... pete |
Thanks for the help Pete. She's in and functioning.
I was going off the WR450 instructions which says to put the Rekluse one up from the bottom of the stack. And I ****ed up and had one too many fibres in there, not sure where.... so I pulled the lot out and started again. Took a bit of friggin around especially to get the lever which sits in the case in the right spot so the cable can be pulled tight. I see what you mean about having a more positive stop, rather than having the cable under substantial constant load. Any chance you got a photo of what you did? As for riding the big girl, the Rekluse just makes it so simple, especially when slow riding and you know when you're in too high a gear with low revs and she starts pig rooting which puts immense strain on the chain and cush hub. Well that's completely gone with some clutch slippage instead. Gotta be cheaper replacing a couple of clutch fibres over chain, sprockets, cush rubbers, etc. And rolling starts, I'm not sure why...but she just hooks up so much better and launches the front wheel into the air with ease. All in all, money very well spent as it just makes the big girl so much more rideable. Robo |
Great yer got it sorted....
The clutch arm stop fits onto the frame guset just above the swing arm pivot I driiled 2 6mm holes in the gusset to mount it... The stop is a adjustable 8mm bolt that the clutch arm stops against... then you can set the cable to have free play as normal... Wait till yer get in mud/slippey ground the rekluse works like a trackton control at low revs.. the wheel dosn't brake lose so easy... Pete |
Pete thanks for the info and all the time spent giving back.
Installed the clutch and really appreciating it. I use my bike everyday as a commuter of sorts and for this purpose along with the benefits I'm finding I get too much slippage which is resulting in clutch heat. Like you posted earlier I think in its basic form it's made for a very high revving engine and needs to be altered to work perfectly. So the answer seems to be heavier wedges. But can I find anywhere that sells them. Searched all over the net but can only find exp 2 wedges which will not work with exp 3. Do u know of anywhere I can purchase them? Ps this product is one of the easiest and best mods I have done. for anyone who rides off road or commutes. |
I can't find any heavyer wedges listed anywhere for the exp3..
Maybe they don't make them.. Put the lightest springs in the EXP unit... I found going to a 48 tooth rear sprocket helped... But the real trick is don't labour the motor in to high a gear.. PS............ I will post a pic of the adjustable stop I made..far better than useing the cable to hold the clutch stack open.. And yer don't have to keep re-adjusting it & no constant strain on the cable.. |
I'm already running 14/48. Yeah I think that's an easy fix running the bike in the right/ lower gear but then my mpg hoes through the roof.
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Hey Marques,
Sounds like you might have your clutch cable adjusted a bit tight. I'm running a 14/47 combo and reckon I'll probably go to a 50 on the rear if I can get one. That should really help the motor spin up quicker. I have also tried acquiring the heavy duty wedges but none available in the US or Oz as yet. Have you installed the EBC heavy duty clutch springs in the pressure plate as well as the red springs in the Rekluse clutch? This is my third auto clutch I've tried in as many bikes and have come to one conclusion...after market auto clutches are ONLY good for spirited riding. For touring or relaxed type riding, they are clutch killers and are NO good. One thing that is helping the longevity of mine at 100 kms per day and over 500 spirited stops and starts is the OTR oil cooler. With the cooler and extra oil line my XT holds just a smidge under 4 litres of oil. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6...8+13.52.31.jpg Robo |
Thanks for the reply. I do have the ebc springs and am also considering getting the heavy duty plates which I think will really help.
I'm after a 50 too. I reckon the best chance is these heavy wedges for the clutch to properly match the bike. Those coolers are nice especially with this clutch heat but I have a z and there is no good place to put it. I really wanted one as I ve gone through two lots of clutches in one year. One more additional change is the type and frequency of oil change. I've been using synthetic but on the website they recommend heavy diesel bases oil so I think I'll look for something like that. I'm gonna ring rekluse next week and see if I can get hold of these wedges. Still love the clutch but it needs a lot of refinement to make it suitable for xt range. Which could and should be resolved! |
Installed the heavy weight kit and absolutely no noticeable slip. This is easily the best mod I've put in so far. The bike is transformed. It literally sprints of. No more getting left behind at the lights. Wonderful.
Any body considering this must also get the heavy weight wedge kit. |
The heavy wedge kit is a mod I have wanted to do..
But never get around to it... In fact the Rekluse maybe coming out when I get the ADV/Enduro sidecar unit finished... Might just be asking to much of the Rekluse.... |
Amazing thanks for the wonderful information.....
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Hey Marques, Where did you get your heavy wedges from? Thanks Robo |
Ordered them through a rekluse distributor. But they weren't cheap.
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Which distributor and which country?
Can't get them in Oz as yet. Thanks |
Strange I'm in Japan but when I spoke to the guy at rekluse he told me you could get them at a rekluse distributor. At that time he didn't know where I was.
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So which distributor did you get yours from so I can get them to?
Thanks Robo |
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is not to sell Rekluse clutchs/parts off shore.. A way to protect the dealer network from the internet... Unless you are in a country with no distributer then you have to contact Rekluse in the US.... So you will need someone to buy for you and then ship it to your country.... I could see if White power sports here in NZ has them then ship them to yer..... Pete |
Please, that would be awesome Pete.
Also...you can't just tell us you're building an outfit for the XT without showing us some progress shots. That's like cracking a beer in front of an Aussie and saying it's your last one.... Robo |
Make sure you look on the rekluse website to find a genuine authorised dealer in your country. Or contact rekluse like I did. They weren't to happy that I purchased mine from ebay but nonetheless they were helpful and I got the part I wanted.
The heavy weight wedge kit was the decisive part that made the rekluse work perfectly. However, please note I also changed the stock clutch plates and springs to ebc heavy weight sets.the gearing is 14 front and 48 rear. Oil was changed to 100% mineral. |
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the sub frame to hang the side car from.. the intention was to have a leaner but being a ADV off road style unit being higher than the usal bath tub style units I would need to push the track to wide to get any useable lean angle from the bike so i will go with a fixed unit... the swinging arm is stainless single sided with a ratio of 3:1 to the shock... next is to settle on the size of the car & start building it... When I get going I may start a build thread on it.. Here or on ADV rider... http://imageshack.com/a/img214/7877/ssa41889.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img256/9101/ssa41888.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img21/3295/ssa41865t.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img171/2505/ssa41861.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img809/7555/ssa41860.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img26/1271/ssa41858.jpg |
Pete,
That looks awesome. Can't wait to see some more. Robo |
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White powersports have the heavy wedges for the EXP 3.. Part No - RMSP741011 , 6 required.. they didn't give me a prise so have sent another e-mail asking for a prise... Pete Just got a E-mail.. $40NZ per wedge.. 6 = $240NZ |
Guys do you know anyone interested In buying a rekluse
It's a exp3.0 with heavy weight wedge kit and all the springs and light wedges. It's only a few months old. Cost me 370 pounds new. Looking for around 50 to cover the postage and all. Bargain right! |
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already sold now
some lucky fella has purchased it. lucky man. gonna miss it;
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Any progress on the sidecar? If so, pictures please!!!!!!!!! Robo |
Put a clutch arm stop on it...
Gives a finer adjustment & more constant clutch engaugement... Aswell as takeing the load of the clutch cable... now set the clutch lever to have free play as with a normal clutch... I have gone though 2 clutch cables with the constant load on them.. Done 12,000km with the Rekluse in now not had one issue with it... " Also built one for the TTR250 which has a Rekluse in it aswell " http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/...1/SAM_0036.jpg |
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it's been in the bike for 3 years now never had to open the
motor... no probs at all with it.... lower gearing dose help letting the revs come up quicker so the clutch locks up sooner.. I did build a better clutch stop to hold the stack open as using the cable was inconsistant... now the cable has no constant strain on it.. ... |
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With the clutch arm stop you can totaly do away with
the clutch lever... But the clutch lever dose make putting it in nutral easyer.. the heavy weights are not needed but they do make the unit lock up sooner at lower revs... the Rekluse unit is the EXP2 for the WR/YZF 450 being for a WR/YZF the clutch springs that come with it will not fit the XT so I used EBC heavy duty springs... There is now a EXP3 unit.... ... . |
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Me again, sorry for all the questions, where in the clutch pack did you put the exp? and do you think it would be possible to leave the clutch push rod out altogether?
Thanks Mark |
there is a fiber & steel plate between the Rekluse unit & the pressure
plate.... "out side plate the springs work in..." you would need to leave the clutch push rod/ drag rod in as you need a way of holding the clutch stack slightly open so theres no drive till the revs come up and the rekluse unit exspands tighting the clutch stack/compressing the plates.. the rekluse unit genarates enough force to compress the heavy duty clutch springs when riding if yer pull the clutch lever it will go right into the grip with no force as the clutch stack has been exspanded by the rekluse unit.. pete ... |
I understand it now thank you for your time Pete.
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something I have thought about..
is doing away with the clutch springs & replaceing them with alloy sleeves short enough so there is no compression on the clutch stack.... use shim washers to fine tune it... This way you could do away with all the clutch system completely.... .... |
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Also would the EXP be better positioned in the middle of the pack in this scenario? |
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