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spen 04-10-12 14:00

Reg/rec Replacment
 
After reading Phils tale on here of many other riders getting caught out with the reg/rec failing i decided to replace mine before this happens ,with the block connector being the weak link i decided to wire it directly into the loom
CHECK THE VOLTAGE WITH THE ORIGINAL REG FIRST,AROUND 14.3 FOR THE ORIGINAL REG
CUT THE WIRES FROM THE REPLACMENT REG (FAZER 600 ) AND REAM OUT THE HOLES TO FIT THE XT BRACKET
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSCF0041-7.jpg
REMOVE THE WIRES ON THE ORIGINAL UNIT AND CUT OF THE CONNECTOR BLOCK LEAVING A LITTLE WIRE TO REUSE THE BLOCK AS A SPARE
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSCF0044-4.jpg
SLIDE SOME HEAT SHRINK ONTO THE WIRE BEFORE SOLDERING (OBVIOUSLY)
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSCF0047-4.jpg
SOLDER THE WIRES ONTO THE LOOM ,RED TO RED BLACK TO BLACK AND A WHITE TO A WHITE FOR EACH
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSCF0049-3.jpg
WHEN YOUR HAPPY WITH THE CONNECTIONS HEAT THE HEAT SHRINK ON , THEN TEST WITH A METER TO CHECK WITH THE BIKE RUNNING YOU ARE GETTING 14 PLUS VOLTS (MINES 14.4 VOLTS)
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSCF0055-4.jpg
TAPE IT ALL UP TO PREVENT WATER GETTING IN THERE
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSCF0050-4.jpg
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSCF0056-4.jpg
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CUT SOME WIRE AND SOLDER TO THE OLD ORIGINAL BLOCK CONNECTOR AGAIN USE HEAT SHRINK AND THEN YOU HAVE A SPARE ,WORST CASE IF YOU HAVE A FAIL YOU CAN WIRE THE ORIGINAL INTO THE LOOM AGAIN
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSCF0061-3.jpg

Ohlins 04-10-12 15:50

Great write up/pics... Spen..thanks for that....

(It'll come in handy later for sure)

:)


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UKbri 04-10-12 18:53

After my Rec wiring failing twice I replaced the whole lot. Bought a kit from http://roadstercycle.com/Shindengen%...rade%20kit.htm
Beefier Rectifier and wiring. It came pre wired so I had minimal work to do. Much happier with the result. Has a built in circuit breaker too and you can also buy a Charge warning LED dash light.
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...ps033e8faf.jpg http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...ps48d72678.jpg http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...psa5adcbf3.jpg http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5e161cf9.jpg http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...psc0453bed.jpg http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5d9817aa.jpg http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...psd904e88b.jpg

spen 04-10-12 20:59

you have ened up with a block connector ,which is what i wanted to get rid of as this seems to be where the heat is generated and causes the problems .The problem is not with the REG itself but the situation and poor fitment of the connector I just read Stoic Blokes fix on here and hard wired mine into the loom .I also have the little charge warning light fitted :toothy10:

bob 04-10-12 22:07

Reg/rec
 
Hi I have a tenere and fitted little spots under head light
All was fine until I did a trip to Europe and while going over the Ardennes
My bike just died . After some deliberation I found that battery had gone flat
It was definitely due to too much current being drawn and not enough going
Back in to battery. I know this because I had spots on for longer than I normally
Do, turned off spots jump started bike and all has been fine for couple of months now with spots only on for short stints.
Does anyone know how I can get it to stay charged with spots on all the time?
I.e different regulator or Something along those lines.
Thanks
Bob

spen 04-10-12 22:17

I think you would be better trying to go for lights with a lower draw on the system ,increasing the voltage would cause more heat to build up in the wiring loom could fry a CDI or worse cause a fire in the loom.someone one here will know what the maximum you can draw from the charging system before you start to affect the battery.Def look at the lights before putting more juice through the loom .

spen 04-10-12 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob (Post 179733)
Hi I have a tenere and fitted little spots under head light
All was fine until I did a trip to Europe and while going over the Ardennes
My bike just died . After some deliberation I found that battery had gone flat
It was definitely due to too much current being drawn and not enough going
Back in to battery. I know this because I had spots on for longer than I normally
Do, turned off spots jump started bike and all has been fine for couple of months now with spots only on for short stints.
Does anyone know how I can get it to stay charged with spots on all the time?
I.e different regulator or Something along those lines.
Thanks
Bob

Should have said ,have you checked what voltage your getting with the bike running should be over 14 . If it"s not could be a faulty REG/REC

Pleiades 04-10-12 22:28

A pair of 55W spots is going to test the charging ciruit to the limit on the XTZ.

Read this thread regarding maximum electrical loading for the Tenere...

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=18294

spen 04-10-12 22:51

Just read through the post on Gen output , explains it perfectly

UKbri 04-10-12 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by spen (Post 179727)
you have ened up with a block connector ,which is what i wanted to get rid of as this seems to be where the heat is generated and causes the problems .The problem is not with the REG itself but the situation and poor fitment of the connector I just read Stoic Blokes fix on here and hard wired mine into the loom .I also have the little charge warning light fitted :toothy10:

Yeah still a connector (x2 now) but much beefier than the standard tiny ones. The problem I found with the originals is that they are just to loose which causes arcing and overheating which then melts the connector. I took them all out and gave them a squeeze the second time it died and it was golden after that. I just didn't want to take any more chances so upgraded it all.


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