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Chris1811 11-04-12 05:46

Enduro boots....which ones?
 
Hi all,

Looking into buying some new boots.

Ive found these which seem to be reasonable.... http://www.ghostbikes.com/products/O...oss-boots.html

I fancy something similar to the above or the sidi crossfire's
http://www.dirtbikebitz.com/sidi-cro...ag-p-1043.html

I just don't fancy the �300 price tag.

So xt660 what do you guys use???

Cheers all

:applause:

CaptMoto 11-04-12 07:37

I have to admit �149.99 for a pair of Alpinestar Tech 3 is indeed a good price however for an extra tenner you could get a much more advanced and better quality pair of Hein Gerrike Tuareg Cross boots. Bear in mind this is their online retail price and a little bird told me that ALL UK Hein Gerrike stores are offering a 20% discount on their HG line of clothing including boots, that means that if you go and get yourself a pair you could possibly be paying �127.99 for them

http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/boots-...l-schwarz.html

Find your nearest store here: http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/unternehmen/ourshops/

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 11-04-12 08:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 170962)
a little bird told me that ALL UK Hein Gerrike stores are offering a 20% discount on their HG line of clothing including boots,

and 'up to' 30% if you trade in your old stuff,

and 0% finance on top of that...

Sounds too good to be true really.

ruttingstag 11-04-12 09:34

I have the sidi crossfires, they are expensive but very good.
They have a hinge so that walking is easy and very good protection.

I learned the hard way and spent a week in hospital with a busted foot and ankle by not wearing a full on mx/enduro boot. [I had'nt planned on falling off that day]
You cant put a price on protection get the best you can.
Lower leg injuries are one of the most common.

Also the boots need to be comfortable or you will give up wearing them.
Try a few differant boots if you can.

I use the crossfires on road or off road now, my old sidi couriers feel like a pair of gym shoes now compared.

steveD 11-04-12 09:47

Sidi Adventure, cos Selina told me to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:icon_biggrin:

...and I like riding in the :weathermanf4[1]:



...........and my last pair of boots had lasted me well so I thought I'd splash out. Extremely comfortable if a little squeaky!:eusa_doh:

jasext 11-04-12 10:23

It all depends if you want them waterproof as the the two links you posted are not waterproof

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 11-04-12 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasext (Post 170967)
It all depends if you want them waterproof as the the two links you posted are not waterproof


There is a solution -> http://www.sealskinz.com/motorcyclin...ee-length-sock

I use, and have used these socks for many years. They are as warm as they come, properly waterproof and comfortable. If a bit pricey...

boneman 11-04-12 10:36

Boots??
 
I'm glad this thread was started.

I actually use 3 pairs of boots depending on what I am doing.

AXO Boxer MX Boots (Mucking about in dirt), Forma Adventure Boots (Long trips over varied terrain), RJays Aquaboots (Road Riding). Not happy with the Axos (very stiff in the ankle to shift gears; I badly broke my ankle and it only has limited movement now). The others are great for what they are designed for.

So, my questions would be: Are the Sidis worth the extra money, and will the hinge mechanism help with shifting? And are there any comparable boots that offer MX levels of protection with good movement at the ankle?

Cheers, Boneman

Chris1811 11-04-12 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 170968)
There is a solution -> http://www.sealskinz.com/motorcyclin...ee-length-sock

I use, and have used these socks for many years. They are as warm as they come, properly waterproof and comfortable. If a bit pricey...

Ive got me a pair of thinsulate waterproof socks! Had em about 5 years now! They are dead warm and waterproof.

I remember going over glen coe in scotland and having a swimming pool in my boots (I could literally pour out the water) but my feet were dry and toastie!

I like the look of the HG boots! Very nice indeed.

I have quite wide feet and ive read lots of good reveiws on the tech 3s. Lots of folk with wide feet saying they are dead comfortable!

mash101 11-04-12 19:56

I can't believe how much you lot are prepared to pay for boots!!!!!!!!!
I have some Magnum NATO issue desert boots. Really light, bendy soles, very comfy on/off bike. Can be waterproofed either with Nickwax or waterproof socks. Warm enough to sub-zero temps. Only �50 online...... They also do Arctic spec army boots etc.

beany 11-04-12 22:01

german ex para boots �25 because i,am tight

Chris1811 11-04-12 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by mash101 (Post 170984)
I can't believe how much you lot are prepared to pay for boots!!!!!!!!!
I have some Magnum NATO issue desert boots. Really light, bendy soles, very comfy on/off bike. Can be waterproofed either with Nickwax or waterproof socks. Warm enough to sub-zero temps. Only �50 online...... They also do Arctic spec army boots etc.

I currently have 4x pairs of magnum assault classics! Fantastic boots. 1x ex parade boots so they wont get used, 1x pair for work, 1x ex work pair that are now holey and one pair I currently use on the bike as Ive grown out of my alpinestars!

Awesome boots agreed but they dont offer the ankle protection you need on a bike imo

CaptMoto 12-04-12 05:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by mash101 (Post 170984)
I can't believe how much you lot are prepared to pay for boots!!!!!!!!!
I have some Magnum NATO issue desert boots. Really light, bendy soles, very comfy on/off bike. Can be waterproofed either with Nickwax or waterproof socks. Warm enough to sub-zero temps. Only �50 online...... They also do Arctic spec army boots etc.

Yes nice bargain but the NATO boots were never designed for off road motorcycle use. We are talking safe ankle protection, in case of a nasty off.

Woottonboy 12-04-12 10:45

I'll see your 25 pound boots and raise you free
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beany (Post 170987)
german ex para boots �25 because i,am tight

Yes I am that tight I use my rural fire service boots (free issue). They are called Taipans and are made in Australia for tough conditions.

Ranger6 12-04-12 11:06

Best thing to do is try them on you will then be able to make a better opinion when spending a lot of money take your time try them out.

My opinion for what its worth is sidi they have spent loads of cash on research just like other manufactures. For me though sidi are quality when you put them on they feel really good. Everyones feet though different shapes and sizes good luck on your purchase, sometimes though your mind is made up what you want a few opinions can help.

Ranger6

Dick Dastardly 12-04-12 19:03

I liked Tech 10's for off road fun. No sole sticking out though so changing gear had to learnt again, but it forced me to move my weight more which was a good thing.

I wear a pair of old Hein G ankle boots most times now as they are more comfortable off the bike.

A good copromise which I wear occasionally is a good pair of trial boots. Cheaper and far more comfortable on and off the bike.

"Pay's your money and take your choice"

Pleiades 12-04-12 19:48

out of all my boots I tend use Held Enduro boot most of the time for most riding on and off road, seems to be a good all-rounder; waterproof and comfortable, it's the sort of boot you can walk around in off the bike for long periods without crippling yourself. The only issue I have is that there is not enough grip on the sole, so pushing your bike on mud and slippery surface needs care!

http://www.getgeared.co.uk/core/medi...e5c3a79dc3bce9

two wheels 03 12-04-12 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by mash101 (Post 170984)
I can't believe how much you lot are prepared to pay for boots!!!!!!!!!
I have some Magnum NATO issue desert boots. Really light, bendy soles, very comfy on/off bike. Can be waterproofed either with Nickwax or waterproof socks. Warm enough to sub-zero temps. Only �50 online...... They also do Arctic spec army boots etc.

Wait until you have a twisted ankle that's black from your foot to half way up your calf - you can just about hobble on a flat surface but you still have to ride your bike - Then you will know why guys spend out on good boots.

http://twobikesrunning.smugmug.com/O...IMGP0402-L.jpg

two wheels 03 12-04-12 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by two wheels 03 (Post 171028)
Wait until you have a twisted ankle that's black from your foot to half way up your calf - you can just about hobble on a flat surface but you still have to ride your bike - Then you will know why guys spend out on good boots.

http://twobikesrunning.smugmug.com/O...IMGP0402-L.jpg

By the way - I had DAYTON TRANS OPEN boots on for our RTW trip, water proof, comfy and quality but I wished I had full on MX boots on when I did my ankle crossing a slippery creek.

To see the crash look at our blog gallery under video's at

www.twobikesrunning.co.uk

Tony660x 12-04-12 23:24

I fell off my bike late last year (or should I say a deer took me out), I was wearing trainers not boots (just going round the block after the bike was serviced), my brain was in neutral so I left the full riding gear in the garage!).

Result

1 broken ankle and 6+ months of pain. Helmet did its job, smashed and wrote off and my head was fine. I got a broken ankle (other injuries sustained as well)... If I get another bike a decent pair of boots with ankle protection will be a must (I had cheap �40 boots but they are no good in the garage are they?).

I have never had a serious off before, lessons were learnt. Save the pain and your money up, get some decent boots. Prevention rather than cure...

Two wheels 03, nasty, very nasty mate. My break had less bruising but I will raise you on the swelling!

sezian 13-04-12 09:50

Long, over priced, hard, difficult to walk in MX boots are old skool. Today is all about usability, style, function and of course still with protection. Short boots are the order of the day, much more affordable, comfortable and still with protection.

Virtually all manufactures are making short boots now and I know a lot of people have switched to this style of boot. If you still want the MX style / protection how about these for �69.99 ???

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Falco-Volt-Short-MX-Boots-/290665755670?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Boots&var=&hash=item 89620245bb

Ranger6 13-04-12 10:15

Sezian,
Not knocking your choice of boot and there is a boot for all but I was wearing a pair of sidi boots a fair bit higher than Volt-Short-MX-Boots.

At the time I was on my triumph triple took a tumble and the bike ended up on my leg where the boot covered ok. But just above the boot right at the top of my shin took about a year to get my leg right it was trapped under the bike.

The sidi took the weight of the bike and no damage was done to my toes, foot, ankle, or shin where the boot covered. That is one reason I say go for sidi I know that the build quality and safety is good. The other reason for me is style and comfort but as I said in previous post all feet are different.

Ranger6

terpal 13-04-12 10:30

My tech3 have a modern looking moulded sole rather than the laminated and steel toe clip that you display. Are they old stock??
Mine are great and tough as hell but changing gear is more difficult and they are only shower proof. Need waterproof sox
Still, I would rather have the hassle than a busted ankle. Been there done that, six months healing and two years on it still gives me gip

tacomodo 13-04-12 10:35

Does anyone know if any brands are known to have wider soles than the rest?

two wheels 03 13-04-12 10:57

You don't ride much dirt do you - My old school shins still go up to my knee and my old school ankle still breaks if over bent in any direction.
But if you use fashion boots, best of new school luck to ya.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sezian (Post 171043)
Long, over priced, hard, difficult to walk in MX boots are old skool. Today is all about usability, style, function and of course still with protection. Short boots are the order of the day, much more affordable, comfortable and still with protection.

Virtually all manufactures are making short boots now and I know a lot of people have switched to this style of boot. If you still want the MX style / protection how about these for �69.99 ???

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Falco-Volt-Short-MX-Boots-/290665755670?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Boots&var=&hash=item 89620245bb


sezian 13-04-12 11:45

Reading the various comments in this thread it would seem that a lot of injuries have been to the ankle area, short boots still provide ankle protection. All motorcycle boots offer a certain level of protection � If you�re wearing them !!!

How high should boots be? If injuries still occur above the top of the boot should we not be wearing thigh high boots? (My wife has some for special occasions although they don�t provide her with much protection when she has them on :love10:)

Riding on dirt, off road or on road the boot you chose needs to be functional and in virtually all cases needs to be able to do more than one job, mainly to be able to walk in. If you read various posts on �Horizons Unlimited� (the people who know about serious off road riding and long trips) you will see all manor of boots used, but not that many will opt for a full on MX boot. MX boots were designed for MX riders they don�t use them for anything else.

If you�re unlucky enough to have an off, injuries will be sustained from the type of accident, off road you may hit a boulder or fall down a ravine, on road it�s more likely to be �road furniture� that causes injury. The type of helmet you wear, the jacket, the trousers or the boots will only give you a certain amount of protection, even if the bike falls on you.

Do all the people wearing full on MX boots wear back protectors ??? I doubt it, isn�t a broken or injured back more of an issue than an ankle injury. And I�m not talking about a pad of foam in the back of your jacket.

terpal 13-04-12 12:21

Thread gently dividing into two sides and neither is right or wrong (same as selecting a bike) although i must say fashion never sways my choice when selecting protective kit. Better to give advice based on personal experience and leave the reader to form his/her opinion
I wear mx boots when travelling for the security and confidence they give so expect some trade off in comfort. I simply carry lightweight sandals or crocs for when camped
My ankle snapped just above the ski boot it was in and still burns like hell when stressed so short boots are not an option for me

Fiddich 13-04-12 13:03

How about trials boots - less ridgid than MX boot but still with good protection.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-BROWN-...item7b690e1b63

mash101 13-04-12 14:25

Point taken from CaptMoto re off-road boots. Mine is an X, so it don't go off road. In saying that, perhaps I should've stayed on topic a bit more!

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 13-04-12 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by terpal (Post 171055)
Thread gently dividing into two sides


Quite.

Can we please try to return to the topic in hand ? I have started another thread to help with this diversion, and this diversion isn't helping Chris make his mind up regarding boots.

mrfijjitt 13-04-12 16:16

I've got these...
I like.
But I have no clue what they are.
From Ebay for about �50.

http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/...t/P1010022.jpg

Good protection, haven't had wet socks yet, wouldn't walk far in them tho.
I would like to know what they are; if anyone knows.?

uberthumper 13-04-12 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfijjitt (Post 171071)
I've got these...
I like.
But I have no clue what they are.
From Ebay for about �50.

<snip pic>

Good protection, haven't had wet socks yet, wouldn't walk far in them tho.
I would like to know what they are; if anyone knows.?

I think they're motorcycle boots. HTH ;)

Chris1811 13-04-12 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 171070)
Quite.

Can we please try to return to the topic in hand ? I have started another thread to help with this diversion, and this diversion isn't helping Chris make his mind up regarding boots.

It has definatley been an interesting read catching up with this thread.

Im definatley getting a pair of high boots such as the tech 3 or sidi. My personal reasons for this is that....whilst the short ankle boots give you ankle protection and support, they dont stop your calfs etc from getting burt by a hot engine.

On offs I have had offroad in the past where my leg has been caught under the bike, I have sustained burns to my leg because of short boots. Had I have been wearing a full length boot I wouldnt have sustained these.

No one has seemed to mention anything with regards to heat protection.
How do people find the heat from the XTs if you were unfortunate enough to come off and get your leg trapped???

Tony660x 13-04-12 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris1811 (Post 171088)
No one has seemed to mention anything with regards to heat protection.
How do people find the heat from the XTs if you were unfortunate enough to come off and get your leg trapped???

Chris going back to your original post, the boots you pointed out look spot on, the boots the Capt linked to were also superb. Either for me would be ideal.

Having ridden with both short and long boots I would say the thermal protection is welcome on the longer boot even in summer. If I knew I was riding to the shops for a walk about I used to use the short boot as the long one as mentioned is an unpleasant experience for any long period of time off the bike. For all other times the full boot is my preferred choice.

Best of luck mate.

stumpydave 13-04-12 22:46

Ive got sidi vertebrae 2 for the road which are very good and are still in very good condition after 10 years!
Just ordered a pair of enduro boots for off road riding.

Rigger boots DONT OFFER ANY PROTECTION, as i found out the winter before last when i lost it on some ice on our lane "just nipping" to the shop.
I broke part of my heel when the footpeg landed on it and now have a mis-shaped foot!

Because I'm a nugget though I still ride to work frequently with rigger boots on as I often cant be arsed.
Like everything else its fine until it goes wrong, who plans on falling off anyway?

Chris1811 13-04-12 22:50

So ive gone and done it, Ive just ordered a pair of these!!!


http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/boots-...l-schwarz.html

two wheels 03 14-04-12 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris1811 (Post 171101)
So ive gone and done it, Ive just ordered a pair of these!!!


http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/boots-...l-schwarz.html

Nice looking boots and good choice mate. My last experience of a leg trapped under the bike had my leg under water. I think if I had those boots on you just bought with the straps tight I probably wouldn't of been limping for the following two months. Angie fell in sand a week later also with Daytona's and twisted her ankle badly. She did the opposite ankle to me and we must of looked like a right pair of spanners walking down the street.

bob 14-04-12 09:06

For me SIDI COURIERS good protection
And on or off bike comfort. Just took off
Toe tips cause they kept on catching top
Box and panniers getting on and off.
Can't get my leg over like I used to ha ha

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 14-04-12 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris1811 (Post 171101)
So ive gone and done it, Ive just ordered a pair of these!!!


http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/boots-...l-schwarz.html

I have a pair of these - as stiff as they come, and they'll just about hold you upright with no effort...

Two things:

* They are not, under any circumstances waterproof, or even splashproof. You will need waterproof socks. However, great in the warm weather.

* When you get them, loctite the bolts that hold the fasteners on, they have a habit of coming loose.

Chris1811 14-04-12 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 171109)
I have a pair of these - as stiff as they come, and they'll just about hold you upright with no effort...

Two things:

* They are not, under any circumstances waterproof, or even splashproof. You will need waterproof socks. However, great in the warm weather.

* When you get them, loctite the bolts that hold the fasteners on, they have a habit of coming loose.

Will do!

Cheers GAS


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