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Kev 30-09-10 09:24

That would be great freez, if you could try to find the out put of the stroker crank for me.

That is a good price for the kit, the cylinder normally costs US$462.00 from the US.

dl700 05-10-10 02:26

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Originally Posted by Kev (Post 139829)
Who said we cant get 60HP from a standard XT660 motor, I am nearly there, a +3mm throttle body should do the trick.

Ok the results from these mods.

Standard XT660X motor.
PCIII
Carbon Can exhausts
DNA stage 3 Air box
Stage 2 Hot cam

A 31% gain in HP over a standard XT660X

58.96HP @ 7000rpm
48.68 Ft/lbs @ 5500rpm

The best run we got was 59.11HP. So I think the stroker crank is going to be the next mod.

I am not here trying to be the king of the castle just trying to provide all the facts to see what Hp we can get from this standard XT motor. The Dyno testing today was carried out by Dynojet Australia.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Untitled-2.jpg

if you are able to modify the ignition curve in the lower rpm's with the HOTCAMS and add additional timing youu will see an improvement in their responce and tq improvement with a better curve

Kev 05-10-10 05:18

By how many approx degrees would say if it were a Raptor to advance it low down?

richardsracingmad 05-10-10 09:44

......what we really need is the Standard XT660 Ignition map...anyone???
it may actually need retarding..Kev...depending on mods..........

Kev 05-10-10 12:35

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Originally Posted by richardsracingmad (Post 140380)
......what we really need is the Standard XT660 Ignition map...anyone???
it may actually need retarding..Kev...depending on mods..........

Where did you get that information from?

richardsracingmad 05-10-10 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev (Post 140374)
By how many approx degrees would say if it were a Raptor to advance it low down?

it may not necessarily be ADVANCED Kev..... that's the point I was making, that's all.

I don't have any information...but timing isn't always Advanced for better performance...it can be Retarded too. (from standard)

I have found that the 2004-2006 models the Ignition is 9deg @1450rpm
and that the 2007-2009 models is 5deg @1450rpm......so both types are not the same.....
but that is the only information I can find on XT660 ignition timing....i.e. not a lot!

Kev 05-10-10 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardsracingmad (Post 140396)
it may not necessarily be ADVANCED Kev..... that's the point I was making, that's all.

I don't have any information...but timing isn't always Advanced for better performance...it can be Retarded too. (from standard)

I have found that the 2004-2006 models the Ignition is 9deg @1450rpm
and that the 2007-2009 models is 5deg @1450rpm......so both types are not the same.....
but that is the only information I can find on XT660 ignition timing....i.e. not a lot!

We all ready have the ignition info, it is in a thread called what's the difference between a 2006 & 2007 XT660 that I posted back in 2007.

If you want to know what the Raptors like as in ignition advance & retard speak to Freez as you know he has played extensively with these motors & has the dyno runs to prove what these motors want as in in ignition advance..

Freez 06-10-10 21:41

A few things I have learned with playing with ignition timing on the raptor and one XT.

One ignition curve does not work for all raptors. The compression ratio you run, bore size, fuel octane rating, all plays a big role in getting the ignition timing sorted out. I have built stock bore raptor with about 12.5:1 compression and tried their ignition maps on big bore, stroked raptor motors running 14:1 compression and it does not work.

I did try a raptor ignition module on the XT and the stock XT motor did not like the stock bore raptor ignition maps one bit.

Personally, I think the ignition module will not add much to the Xt's power output. The raptors have deliberate bad timing from the factory to reduce power output. the XT's don't have the same problem.

richardsracingmad 07-10-10 03:12

Freez, which ignition module was that?
I want to raise the rev limit from 7200rpm, so I think I may need to sort out ignition/fuelling.
Did the ignition module you used, raise the rev limit?
thanks Freez

Freez 07-10-10 18:51

I used a dynatek programmable ignition module made for a raptor 700. The unit will allow you to change the RPM limit, but is useless on an XT.

The XT's rev limiter is controlled by the injector, not ignition. I personally wish it was the other way round. the reason why I tested the ignition on the XT was in the hope of extending the stock XT's rev limiter to 8000 RPM plus, but no joy.

So, in theory yes you can programme the dynatek ignition module to cut the Xt's revs at lower than 7200 RPM, but that would be stupid. the stock XT's rev limiter is already to low for my liking.


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