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wonky 10-05-10 21:42

Adventure-Spec Tenere Crashplate Available! (crashbars and Bashplate Combo)
 
Its taken a mighty long time as ever but we've got these little beauties on the shelf and ready to go.
They look similar to the Yamaha offerings, but have been completely re-engineered to mount better and take a good hammering.......i think they look pretty sweet!
check em out here

http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/yamaha-xt660z-tenere-crashplate-bashplate-skid-bash-plate-crash-bars-engine-bars-protection-sump-guard-sumpguard-guard-it-technology-touratech/prod_231.html

http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/i...re/tenere1.jpg

http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/i...re/tenere2.jpg

http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/i...re/tenere3.jpg

http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/i...re/tenere4.jpg

http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/i...re/tenere5.jpg

http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/i...re/tenere6.jpg

http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/i...re/tenere7.jpg

googan 10-05-10 22:04

bash plate
 
i've just got one and its a great bit of kit.
solid and robust.
worth the investment
:026::smilies0942:

stuxtttr 10-05-10 22:26

It does look like awell made bit of kit but the price is a bit touratechy

warnabrother 11-05-10 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuxtttr (Post 128473)
It does look like awell made bit of kit but the price is a bit touratechy

I agree.. the Aussie made B&B unit is AUD$245 and has high sides to protect waterpump etc..

http://www.bboffroad.com.au/xt_660_z_tenere1.htm

wonky 11-05-10 16:06

Firstly, the product got priced wrong, its been corrected.

Secondly. Please beware that you are not just buying a bashplate, our product is the bashplate AND the crashbars.

The bars are not the Yamaha bars, although they look very similar. They are a brand new product made specifically to address the issues with the Yamaha ones, ie ours are not rubbish and will not break repeatedly.

Fitting, removal and on-the-trail maintenance is made much more simple by having far fewer fasteners and seperate hardware parts to deal with.

This is a UK made product. Our other crashbar product for the BMW F800GS has been proven on over 10 RTW trips now and continue to sell at a rampant pace. See testimonial at link below
http://www.adventure-spec.com/2009/1...pec-customers/

frankly at more than �145 for a simple bashplate the B+B part looks dear to me.

The Yamaha bashplate mounts to some ridiculously bendy bit of a steel flap at the front, i cant understand how it can offer any worthwhile protection

Our guard is mounted directly to our crashbars, which has two major benefits. A good solid mount through solid parts of the frame, that will spread any impacts throughout a large area and in case of major impacts ( i mean major) will deform the bars and their mounts before smashing your engine case to bits. Having the two parts as one makes for much simpler fitting and vastly reduced service times.

So. You get a set of crashbars(powdercoated in black) AND a bashplate (which is hard annodized in silver) for your money. (The bashplate and crashbars are not available seperately)

I think i need to make this clearer on our site......

regie308 12-05-10 01:58

Obviously its a location thing.... if you live in the UK then adventurespec's bash plate/bar combo would be the choice i would go for... even over touracrap.

But if you live in OZ well the B&B bashy would be the choice.

It's simply a postal cost issue.

warnabrother 12-05-10 02:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonky (Post 128522)
Firstly, the product got priced wrong, its been corrected.

Secondly. Please beware that you are not just buying a bashplate, our product is the bashplate AND the crashbars.

The bars are not the Yamaha bars, although they look very similar. They are a brand new product made specifically to address the issues with the Yamaha ones, ie ours are not rubbish and will not break repeatedly.

Fitting, removal and on-the-trail maintenance is made much more simple by having far fewer fasteners and seperate hardware parts to deal with.

This is a UK made product. Our other crashbar product for the BMW F800GS has been proven on over 10 RTW trips now and continue to sell at a rampant pace. See testimonial at link below
http://www.adventure-spec.com/2009/1...pec-customers/

frankly at more than �145 for a simple bashplate the B+B part looks dear to me.

The Yamaha bashplate mounts to some ridiculously bendy bit of a steel flap at the front, i cant understand how it can offer any worthwhile protection

Our guard is mounted directly to our crashbars, which has two major benefits. A good solid mount through solid parts of the frame, that will spread any impacts throughout a large area and in case of major impacts ( i mean major) will deform the bars and their mounts before smashing your engine case to bits. Having the two parts as one makes for much simpler fitting and vastly reduced service times.

So. You get a set of crashbars(powdercoated in black) AND a bashplate (which is hard annodized in silver) for your money. (The bashplate and crashbars are not available seperately)

I think i need to make this clearer on our site......


I am not doubting the stength or the design, I think it looks good... and at GBP190 , is now a lot better value.

To be honest, if the shipping wasn't as high as it is, I'd most probably order that one over the B&B one as IMO it does look nicer.. and seeing that we don't pay the VAT it comes in at around GBP170 but the freight charges aer just too high..

They should sell well now at GBP190

wonky 12-05-10 13:32

i'll forward these comments onto to a dealer in Oz who has placed an order for Tenere parts.

Contact http://www.adventuremoto.com.au

we dont do dealers normally, but the prohibitive price of shipping individual parts to Australia means it makes sense.

warnabrother 12-05-10 13:37

thanks Wonky..
Will PM Steve on ADVrider.. when will he have his stock available for sale i.e. have you sent bashplates to him yet ??

wonky 12-05-10 13:52

we havent sent him any stuff yet. i need to contact him to sort the order out he has placed, but it only takes about 5 days to ship, so once they're off it shouldnt take long!
He hasnt set any prices yet, although you dont pay VAT i guess there will be some Oz duties on import and shipping to take into account so they will be more expensive than here.

Kemizz 14-05-10 17:55

I use to oem protection, dropped the bike only twice
result on the back (where bashplant and bar is fitted to the frame) the bashplate broken

probably when dropping it the bar bended and this made the bashplate crack open ....

you are mentioning on this new product that the front part and fixation is much better and stronger then the OEM , but how are things build near the back ???

Really can't believe yamaha is selling their accesoires as " adventure protection"

cases => those I sold , they were ok ,but still would'nt wanna risk a drop with them
hand guards => crap , after second drop hand guards is broken where it's fixed to the bike near the mirror
engine and waterpump protection => again , crap , two drops and it's now cracked ...

go yahama!
love this bike,but things get expensive , if everything brakes that easily

regie308 15-05-10 04:29

yeah i never would buy oem stuff as the aftermarket stuff is allway better and most likely cheaper

googan 16-05-10 10:38

single exhaust
 
wonky,
i didn't like the trial single exhaust conversion which has just been put on my xt660z; the box is too small... starves it of air. it was ok on the pick up but slow on the top end.
i assume you know what i am talking about
cheers
Googan:grouphug5:

wonky 20-05-10 19:01

we're making a new setup with the larger diameter cans we use on our pipe for the ktm 690 enduro, which is nice but a bit pricier which i didnt really want. We'll see how this one turns out, its killer on the 690 so if we get the pipe work flowing right it should do the job on the tenere.

66T 22-05-10 20:34

Re the bashplate and bar setup: it looks the goods to me. I've ordered mine. 400 bucks is a lot cheaper than being stranded with a rooted alternator, set of cases or water pump imo. Even if I never go on any more decent adventures, it doesn't matter. The protection is there for everyday use. If the product is as strong as it looks, I'll be well pleased. Can't wait to bolt it on.:coolsmiley:

SelinaXC 23-05-10 17:07

Seen one of these bashplates on SteveDs Ten this weekend looks absolutely mint - I'm sure he'll comment when he's back but it's certainly saved his engine - and he didn't even drop it, just flying rock damage! I'm hoping adventure-spec will have a look at a similar product for the X/R.
Selina

Skunkmoto 23-05-10 18:30

Might have to raid the piggy bank, that looks good protection with out being OTT.

steveD 23-05-10 19:20

Yeah I have to agree. I did hit a rock very hard and put a dink in the engine bar and bash plate, not so much damage as 'patina'. That guard certainly saved me a smashed clutch cover! That has paid for itself already.

66T 24-05-10 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveD (Post 129269)
Yeah I have to agree. I did hit a rock very hard and put a dink in the engine bar and bash plate, not so much damage as 'patina'. That guard certainly saved me a smashed clutch cover! That has paid for itself already.

My thinking too. When you look at the cost of possible engine damage against the price of the bar/plate setup, it's obviously cheap insurance imo. And mine is gonna be 40-odd quid dearer than yours!:087::mboxhappy:

wonky 25-05-10 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by 66T (Post 129384)
My thinking too. When you look at the cost of possible engine damage against the price of the bar/plate setup, it's obviously cheap insurance imo. And mine is gonna be 40-odd quid dearer than yours!:087::mboxhappy:

Actually we have just sent a set of bars out to Australia and (unlike most other companies) because we remove the UK sales tax (VAT) once we sell outside the UK the bars actually only cost �170.00. Add postage and the total comes to �218.00 compared to �205.00 posted inside the UK. Only a few pounds difference.

Hope your plate arrived ok!

Also, many thanks to Steve D for stopping in and letting us have a look at his bashplate combo yesterday. It had clearly taken a serious impact over the weekend on the right side of the plate and bars. Steve said the way the angle of impact had happened he reckoned the clutch casing would have shattered without protection, to say nothing of some serious damage that would have happened to his right foot.

Luckily his foot and the casing were fine. Other than a scratch the plate was unmoved, all the crashbar mounts were perfectly solid and there was no movement or deformation to be found anywhere.

Exactly how it should be. Happy customers make for a happy Adventure-Spec!

Skunkmoto 25-05-10 16:17

Just ordered one

CaptMoto 25-05-10 17:26

Thanks for all your help wonky, and I appreciate seeing you back with more products, hope you get good bsns and you stick around for more ideas to come.

Just think about this: the Tenere boys want to go off road and they want their machine to be able to be dropped and dragged and remain scot free when they pick them back up, so anything that you can machine to safeguard their bikes will always be a good seller.

Cheers.

steveD 25-05-10 21:49

I have to agree with you Cap'n. The guys at Adventure Spec are well versed in what the trail bike guys want and are doing their best to get some quality products for us. I went down the other day for some more 'goodies' and to show them just how well the bash plate had performed. It wasn't until we got down on our knees to inspect the underneath that I have really realised just how strong the engine guard is. The pipe itself has a bent bit now and I'm sure that my bad riding was clearly to blame:112: but the unit has had a right good thump and as Wonky has said I would certainly be looking for a new clutch cover and potentially more. In fact the impact was so hard that the engine guard has a small chip in the enamel where it has come into contact with a screw on the clutch casing which is a good 6mm away and the bar has returned to its original position. Result. They also have a single silencer on the way.:SpinHappy_15XK8L:

Avo 25-05-10 21:49

Nice looking bit of kit, and good value IMHO.

wonky 26-05-10 12:30

cheers capt
it took a while to get this project done, but we're happy with the results. We spend our time making good functional parts for bikes, not churning out loads of pointless bling/chod. We've got an exhaust in the works, but other than this we wont be going mad. For all our Tenere products look here
As Steve mentioned above the bars clearly have some 'springiness' to them, which is good, as springiness absorbs impact forces. After inspection we were happy to see the results as the bars show no signs of fatigue, with all welds and mounts 100%. From reading other threads id imagine the Yamaha parts wouldnt have stood up so well. Make no mistake, this must have been a BIG impact. We have seen lots of photos of damage(or lack of) to crashed BMW F800GS bars, but we have never seen the high tensile steel tube actually dented.

The damage to bars and plate (you cant see the small dent from this angle)
http://wonky.smugmug.com/Other/tener...74_eqwpr-O.jpg

Evidence of deflection of bars (and return)
http://wonky.smugmug.com/Other/tener...29_qSjRe-O.jpg

the bike
http://wonky.smugmug.com/Other/tener...02_HK8Xc-O.jpg

Skunkmoto 09-06-10 11:26

Some photos and bit of a guide to fitting.

You get a pack of nuts, bolts spacers along with the bars and plate plus a set of fitting instructions, so read them and then read this and it'll take 30 mins to fit.

The crash bars are coated which includes the threads for the bash plate so use one of the front bash plate bolts to clean the threads out before fitting, taking care not to cross thread etc.

Unbolt the rectifier and tie it out the way and I got rid of the panel on the coolant tank.

The supplied instruction say bolt the plate to the bars first but don't, it just gets in the way as you will see, I did and had to take it off.

You need to locate the front mounting bolt see pic, it's the one below/behind the coolant pipe NOT the one easy to see just above, so make sure you've got the correct one. You can just get a small socket on it or a decent ring spanner.

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...smDSCF0438.jpg

Use the supplied washer bolt nut and fit the bars to the front. TOP TIP only push the bolt through the LHS by 3,4mm and get the washer on and start the nut on by hand. If you push the bolt all the way through the nut is knocked off true by the coolant pipe and you will never get it started on the bolt. Not much room for hands fingers in here and if you have fitted the bash plate it's impossible. Just leave it loose for now and fit the rear mount.

Instructions say use the "middle" spacer but I used the biggest spacer it fits inbetween the lugs on the plate which fit inbetween the frame mounts with the smaller spacer on the RHS. Easy enough spacers are a snug fit so you can put em in and they stay in place.

Next I torqued up the front mount (plate still not bolted to bars) and then bolted the plate to the bars at the front, then did up the rear bolt and there you go.

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...smDSCF0444.jpg

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSCF0443-1.jpg

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...smDSCF0442.jpg

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSCF0440-1.jpg


http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...smDSCF0441.jpg


I like it, instructions could be better and why get 3 spacers when only need two??. Everything lined up OK and looks quality so gets a 9.9 out of ten. Not the kind of thing you really want to test out but I'll feel a bit happier out on the trail.

Just need to sort out me fly problem.

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...smDSCF0445.jpg

steveD 09-06-10 22:36

Nice one Skunkmoto, now you just need some wider footpegs! I got some from Adventure spec and they are much more comfortable than the originals and make getting to the standing position much easier and as more of your foot is supported your ankle takes less strain. Just a thought!:BaseballHat_LNY2EG:

mudmatt 10-06-10 14:36

Good thread, i pick up my first Tenere next week it's a 58 plate, i think i'll be ordering one of these, just looking at the adventure-spec website and my wallet is getting worried:mbounce:

wonky 11-06-10 18:48

Great to read about the fitting of a plate. Also to hear about any issues you might have. Firstly, are there any other parts to the instructions other than the points you mentioned above that you weren't happy with? We'll get stuff sorted as soon as get a definitive list.

Secondly, the extra spacers. Originally we were going to sell the bars and the bashplate seperately and the spacers you have were early sets with extra bits in that are no longer needed. When the first 30 sets are gone you'll no longer get a spare aluminium anodised spacer!

Thanks for the kind coments as ever! We're pleased to say the bars and 'plates are now selling well.

Dave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skunkmoto (Post 130595)
Some photos and bit of a guide to fitting.

You get a pack of nuts, bolts spacers along with the bars and plate plus a set of fitting instructions, so read them and then read this and it'll take 30 mins to fit.

The crash bars are coated which includes the threads for the bash plate so use one of the front bash plate bolts to clean the threads out before fitting, taking care not to cross thread etc.

Unbolt the rectifier and tie it out the way and I got rid of the panel on the coolant tank.

The supplied instruction say bolt the plate to the bars first but don't, it just gets in the way as you will see, I did and had to take it off.

You need to locate the front mounting bolt see pic, it's the one below/behind the coolant pipe NOT the one easy to see just above, so make sure you've got the correct one. You can just get a small socket on it or a decent ring spanner.

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...smDSCF0438.jpg

Use the supplied washer bolt nut and fit the bars to the front. TOP TIP only push the bolt through the LHS by 3,4mm and get the washer on and start the nut on by hand. If you push the bolt all the way through the nut is knocked off true by the coolant pipe and you will never get it started on the bolt. Not much room for hands fingers in here and if you have fitted the bash plate it's impossible. Just leave it loose for now and fit the rear mount.

Instructions say use the "middle" spacer but I used the biggest spacer it fits inbetween the lugs on the plate which fit inbetween the frame mounts with the smaller spacer on the RHS. Easy enough spacers are a snug fit so you can put em in and they stay in place.

Next I torqued up the front mount (plate still not bolted to bars) and then bolted the plate to the bars at the front, then did up the rear bolt and there you go.

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...smDSCF0444.jpg

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSCF0443-1.jpg

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...smDSCF0442.jpg

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSCF0440-1.jpg


http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...smDSCF0441.jpg


I like it, instructions could be better and why get 3 spacers when only need two??. Everything lined up OK and looks quality so gets a 9.9 out of ten. Not the kind of thing you really want to test out but I'll feel a bit happier out on the trail.

Just need to sort out me fly problem.

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...smDSCF0445.jpg


Skunkmoto 14-06-10 13:51

Dave, I can only nit pick so here goes.

Instructions could be better, pictures along side the text rather than on two seperate pages. Plus an arrow on the photo poiting to the fixing bolt to the front.

Still not sure about bolting the bash plate to the bars first, maybe if someone else has an opinion on fitting, SteveD??

Other than those very minor points, happy with the product, price and service.

steveD 14-06-10 21:29

I got one of the first from Adventure-Spec and to be quite honest I did not have any fixing instructions. The product itself is quite explanatory in as much that the construction dictates how it will fit. But then I was a Design Engineer in a previous life and a time served Toolmaker so it should not have presented any problems. I did mount the front bolt first without the bash plate fitted and put the rear bolt through, minus spacers purely as a locator to ensure the bars were in the correct position. This allowed me to tighten up the front bolt and then reconnect the reg/rectifier. Then the bash plate and spacers at the back were installed and tightened securely.

Worked for me:occasion14:

Hope this helps..

66T 15-06-10 13:54

I agree with pretty much all the above. My plate assembly fitted well (after cleaning the coating out of the bashplate bolt threads as stated). Wonky's shipping service I found to be excellent too. A great company to deal with imo.

The product looks strong and functional too, and well made. The only criticism I can level, if it is one, is that on my bike there's a noticeable difference in felt vibration and harmonics. This is not surprising since we buyers have, in effect, bolted on an additional, rigid section of frame. I can see why the original Yamaha items were reputed to be responsible for some cracked mainframes. I hope the new assembly isnt too rigid. No doubt it has been tested to destruction, so I'm probably imagining a non-problem...:042:

steveD 15-06-10 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by 66T (Post 131037)
I agree with pretty much all the above. My plate assembly fitted well (after cleaning the coating out of the bashplate bolt threads as stated). Wonky's shipping service I found to be excellent too. A great company to deal with imo.

The product looks strong and functional too, and well made. The only criticism I can level, if it is one, is that on my bike there's a noticeable difference in felt vibration and harmonics. This is not surprising since we buyers have, in effect, bolted on an additional, rigid section of frame. I can see why the original Yamaha items were reputed to be responsible for some cracked mainframes. I hope the new assembly isnt too rigid. No doubt it has been tested to destruction, so I'm probably imagining a non-problem...:042:


66T Just to inform you that it was the Yamaha engine guard brackets at the front that were cracking, NOT the mainframe / downtube of the bike itself. Hope this clarifies.
I think this must be the reason that Yamaha recalled their engine guards and haven't to date managed to manufacture a replacement.
Adventure-Spec have jumped in and looked at the problem and to my mind resolved it for us.

Oh and by the way I think I have had a good go at testing it to destruction to no avail as yet!:bom:

Cheers

firestorm_al 15-06-10 23:42

My yamaha engine guard did its job of protecting my engine when I came off last year. No sign of any breakages but it's all scraped so was supposed to be replaced before I got the bike back after the insurance repair. As you all know Yamaha have withdrawn it so the dealer has finally agreed to order me up an AdventureSpec one as a replacement (I agreed to make up the difference but at least I get a better quality replacement).

Al.

steveD 16-06-10 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by firestorm_al (Post 131093)
My yamaha engine guard did its job of protecting my engine when I came off last year. No sign of any breakages but it's all scraped so was supposed to be replaced before I got the bike back after the insurance repair. As you all know Yamaha have withdrawn it so the dealer has finally agreed to order me up an AdventureSpec one as a replacement (I agreed to make up the difference but at least I get a better quality replacement).

Al.

Now that is what I call a very resonable result and Dealer that knows their business. Although a few scratches on the plate and guard in my opinion are just patina!
:occasion14:

wonky 16-06-10 11:46

See here for our online set of instructions, I think they cover the points you make. Perhaps we ought to put a link on our printed instructions?

http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/i...structions.pdf


As usual, thanks for taking the time to post its really appreciated!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skunkmoto (Post 130941)
Dave, I can only nit pick so here goes.

Instructions could be better, pictures along side the text rather than on two seperate pages. Plus an arrow on the photo poiting to the fixing bolt to the front.

Still not sure about bolting the bash plate to the bars first, maybe if someone else has an opinion on fitting, SteveD??

Other than those very minor points, happy with the product, price and service.


Skunkmoto 16-06-10 13:52

They're much clearer now, not rocket science I know, but all helps.

stuxtttr 16-06-10 17:26

could this be cured by some rubber mountings, I know thats how harley smoothed their engine vibes a bit !

If Wonky wants to send me a trail plate and frame kit i will be more than happy to test it out :laughing5: PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE

Quote:

Originally Posted by 66T (Post 131037)
I agree with pretty much all the above. My plate assembly fitted well (after cleaning the coating out of the bashplate bolt threads as stated). Wonky's shipping service I found to be excellent too. A great company to deal with imo.

The product looks strong and functional too, and well made. The only criticism I can level, if it is one, is that on my bike there's a noticeable difference in felt vibration and harmonics. This is not surprising since we buyers have, in effect, bolted on an additional, rigid section of frame. I can see why the original Yamaha items were reputed to be responsible for some cracked mainframes. I hope the new assembly isnt too rigid. No doubt it has been tested to destruction, so I'm probably imagining a non-problem...:042:


Skunkmoto 17-06-10 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by 66T (Post 131037)
is that on my bike there's a noticeable difference in felt vibration and harmonics.

Can't say I've noticed any difference to vibes.

66T 19-06-10 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveD (Post 131080)
66T Just to inform you that it was the Yamaha engine guard brackets at the front that were cracking, NOT the mainframe / downtube of the bike itself. Hope this clarifies.
I think this must be the reason that Yamaha recalled their engine guards and haven't to date managed to manufacture a replacement.
Adventure-Spec have jumped in and looked at the problem and to my mind resolved it for us.

Oh and by the way I think I have had a good go at testing it to destruction to no avail as yet!:bom:

Cheers

Ah no worries steveD. It pays to get the facts right, and I clearly didn't. And yes mate, you certainly gave your bar a workout.

Re the felt vibration statement I made - that's obviously my perception on my bike and I don't care about big single vibes anyway. Anyone who has owned British big singles, TT/XT 500s and a couple of enduro 610 Huskies isn't going to be worried about the Tenere's feeble (in comparison) vibes! It was just my observation.

I, too, think that the engine bar/bashplate combo is well designed and excellently made. As I've already implied, I'm glad I bought one.


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