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hushy 25-02-10 20:32

Indicators
 
have already been on and asked about this but took the seat off today and looked at the back indicator connections and put one of the new indicators on but it was flashing too fast. should i buy one of these of ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTORCYCLE-LED...item1c0f49e20b

and if so can someone show me where it can be connected on to the bike with pictures or should i go for individual resistors on each indicator????? the rear ones look easy enough to do but how do you get into the front indicators, do u have to remove the front headlight??

cheers hushy:016:

uncle ricky 25-02-10 22:42

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Originally Posted by hushy (Post 121455)
have already been on and asked about this but took the seat off today and looked at the back indicator connections and put one of the new indicators on but it was flashing too fast. should i buy one of these of ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTORCYCLE-LED...item1c0f49e20b

and if so can someone show me where it can be connected on to the bike with pictures or should i go for individual resistors on each indicator????? the rear ones look easy enough to do but how do you get into the front indicators, do u have to remove the front headlight??

cheers hushy:016:


I bought one, have not fitted it yet thru

Paul Curtis 26-02-10 00:52

I have a relay similar to this on my X it is located behind the right hand side cover under the seat all you do is remove the old flasher unit and replace it with your new one

hushy 26-02-10 13:14

thanks for replys will have a go.
hushy:icon_salut:

CC XT660 02-03-10 23:04

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Originally Posted by hushy (Post 121455)
do u have to remove the front headlight??

cheers hushy:016:

hey hushy i did this the other week, i found it was a lot easier to remove the front fairing to access the connectors for the front indicators ...

You need to first undo the speedo (two small screws on either side of the bracket)

Then remove the front fairing which goes around the headlight (1 screw in the middle underneath the headlight, it's the angle adjusting screw for the healight, then 2 screws on the bottom and 2 on the top and sh'e off!) then it's simple to access the connectors, sort of above/behind the front light

if u try and do it without removing these it's a tight and frustrating process

hushy 04-03-10 10:47

cheers ccxt660 thats exactly what i was looking for.off on on holiday soon so thats my project for that week.
ta hushy:thumbsup:

CC XT660 04-03-10 22:28

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Originally Posted by hushy (Post 122230)
cheers ccxt660 thats exactly what i was looking for.off on on holiday soon so thats my project for that week.
ta hushy:thumbsup:

no probs hushy, have a good holiday mate :)

Powerfreak 07-03-10 14:07

Some feed back on how you got on with this process would have been good to us other XT users as im having a problem like this also.
ill start from the begining......

Firstly i bought some oxford BULB indicators and fitted them to the rear only, so had new on rear and standard on front .Had no problems with flash rates at all.
Then i bought another set of exactly the same indicators as the rear (BULB). Fitted them and now the flash rate is too fast.?!?!?!?
I dont understand why this is as i thought you only needed resistors/flasher relays for LED indicators.
Can anyone tell me if i do need a flasher relay or something simular to solve the over fast flash rate that is now happening?
Cheers in advance :-)

uncle ricky 07-03-10 14:36

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Originally Posted by Powerfreak (Post 122612)
Some feed back on how you got on with this process would have been good to us other XT users as im having a problem like this also.
ill start from the begining......

Firstly i bought some oxford BULB indicators and fitted them to the rear only, so had new on rear and standard on front .Had no problems with flash rates at all.
Then i bought another set of exactly the same indicators as the rear (BULB). Fitted them and now the flash rate is too fast.?!?!?!?
I dont understand why this is as i thought you only needed resistors/flasher relays for LED indicators.
Can anyone tell me if i do need a flasher relay or something simular to solve the over fast flash rate that is now happening?
Cheers in advance :-)


I think you find that the bulbs are 10w so if you fit anything less then it will flash faster

Powerfreak 07-03-10 15:46

So what do you think the answer would be uncle? Please dont tell me other indicators, these cost me �35 per set!
And why didnt they flash faster when only the rear were fitted?
One other thing is that when i turn the hazard lights on they flash at the correct rate?!?!?!? strange if you ask me.

uncle ricky 07-03-10 16:10

go to the top of this page you will find your answer #:- )
****** this is on another page go to the previous page

Powerfreak 07-03-10 16:17

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Originally Posted by uncle ricky (Post 122622)
go to the top of this page you will find your answer #:- )
****** this is on another page go to the previous page

LOL Unc ! do you mean the link to ebay? if you do can u be sure this relay works as i had a ninja and bought led indicators that need a relay from ebay and it didnt work.

Paul Curtis 07-03-10 16:54

Check the wattage of the bulbs in your new indictors to make sure they are 12v 10w if they are 12v 5w then they will flash to fast

hushy 07-03-10 20:54

ordered my relay from ebay tonight and will have a go at it this week. had a dry run at fitting 1 of my new indicators and defo flashing to fast?????
hushy

Powerfreak 07-03-10 21:55

Hi guys
It was the relay! I bought one from our local halfords and it worked. My bulbs were 12v 6w which was making them flash fast. very easy 5 min job of just replacing the standard 2 pin relay with the new one, just plug in and go !
Personally i wont buy relays from ebay after my last pain in the ass purchase where the seller refused to replace it by saying that it had been tested before it was sent. Must have been talking outta his a r s e as it didnt bloody work! Even if he did take it back i would have been paying the cost of postage. Id rather go to a local shop for something like that, like i said halfords have a small amount of bike gear in there stores now so makes sense for me to do that. Id also pay more for a better make rather than pay half price for one thats been made buy some guy in his garage that refuses to accept that he had made a faulty one, ****! grrrrrrr ..that was a long time ago anyway and im sure not everyone is that c r a p on ebay so i hope you get a good one Husey.
Let me know how you get on mate.
cheers for all the replys people!

hushy 21-03-10 21:04

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...00321-1112.jpg

new mirrors and indicators

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...00321-1115.jpg

CC XT660 22-03-10 06:58

nice work hushy, the indicators & mirrors capture the lines of the bike, or something...!! looks good

are they a set? they seem similar shape.. how much and where you order them from?

hushy 23-03-10 10:25

thanks for that m8. got them on ebay but not a set. will see if i can find the sellers and pass on to you.:blob6:
hushy

hazza2805 23-03-10 13:38

looking good! What are the mirrors like with the vibes of the XT? As I read somewhere the XT standard mirrors are quite heavy to reduce the vibes or something???

bonjo 23-03-10 18:36

relay & bulb rating
 
the way flasher relays work is dependent on the current drawn by the bulbs it is connected to. The current drawn through the relay generated heat which flips the relay open. As it cools down, the relay connection is made again. So the cycle goes on: warm>> turned off, cold>> turned on. You get the on/off rate.
I don't have LED bulb, but based on the principle above, if you put lower wattage bulb such as LED (hence less current hence less heat in the relay), you will bet a faster blinking rate. You typically see this on cars with fast blinking indicators which is caused by blown bulbs.
Once you know this, the rest is easy to work out

CC XT660 23-03-10 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjo (Post 124307)
the way flasher relays work is dependent on the current drawn by the bulbs it is connected to. The current drawn through the relay generated heat which flips the relay open. As it cools down, the relay connection is made again. So the cycle goes on: warm>> turned off, cold>> turned on. You get the on/off rate.
I don't have LED bulb, but based on the principle above, if you put lower wattage bulb such as LED (hence less current hence less heat in the relay), you will bet a faster blinking rate. You typically see this on cars with fast blinking indicators which is caused by blown bulbs.
Once you know this, the rest is easy to work out

nice description Bonjo, cheers :109:

hushy 24-03-10 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by hazza2805 (Post 124295)
looking good! What are the mirrors like with the vibes of the XT? As I read somewhere the XT standard mirrors are quite heavy to reduce the vibes or something???

yes your right. the old mirrors were heavy and do get a slight more vibes on the new 1's.


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