The answer to this is basically "I wouldn't risk it." From what I've read on here it's a pretty big difference in air flow with the filter kit.

The good news is, it's shouldn't be a continuing cycle of money after that unless you want it to be. Once you have the filters and the Power Commander, your only further expense is getting someone to put it on a dyno and set up the latter to suit the former.

If you change something else (exhaust, further tuning) then you've already got the Power commander, so you just need, again, to get it set up to suit the new configuration.


It's a device to automatically lubricate your chain when the bike is running. Stick it into google. Do you need one? Depends how much you like manually cleaning and oiling your chain! I don't, so my bike will be getting one.

Kev is a member on here, who has developed a way of making a small adjustment to the fuelling without a power commander. You'll have to ask him or search on here for more details, because I haven't been here long and have no idea of the details.

I suspect you don't really need to know, because you will need the full control offered by a power commander in order to get your bike set up correctly for the filter kit.

http://www.scottoiler.com/about.asp

See the Modifications list as published by Kev for his fuel mod or go via the search function.

You don't need it - the bike will still go, but you'll get much more if you go for the fuel mod and untimately the PC.

Speak to Simon @ PowerTech, http://www.powertech.uk.com/ he already has some maps so this is not an expense you need to go through. He is also the cheapest by far for PowerCommander boxes - he shiped mine already setup with the right map on installed

(a map is the information table that needs to be completed that tells the bike how much fuel to use etc, in reality it's just a lot of numbers in a table. You need a different map depending on how your bike is modified, such as air filters, exhausts )

Kev's Fuel mod is a little bit of trickery that was developed by Kev to give a low cost solution to the fueling issues caused by better air filters. It cost a few �� to buy rather than the ��� for the PC-V (PowerCommander - V, or 5).

If you use the 'search' button above and put in "kev mod" (including the quotes) you'll get some threads that discuss it, the cost and how easy it is to do.

Now we are cooking.

Thanks to those who kindly replied. My DNA filters just arrived and I have spoken with Simon-C and ordered the power commander.

I shall forget this Iridium spark plug idea.

I shall now search for the scottoiler, seems a very good idea. How much do they cost?

Simon knows I have standard cans and will install the full DNA kit. Do I take it then that the bike will not need further attention? Will Simon do the mapping on the power commander before shipping?

Will I, with no mechanical experience for over 30 years, be able to fit the filters and the power commander? 10,000$ question eh? Lol

Thank you all again for the great support.

Ryland

About �70-80 in the UK last time I looked. About the same as a set of chain and sprockets - and unless you are really attentive about cleaning and lubing your chain manually then it will easily double the life of a chain in my experience.

Really need to get one for my Ten', I feel bad every time I look at the chain!

Hi, Thanks for the reply.

This could be a 'how long is a piece of string question' but.........In general, how long does a chain and sprocket set last? When I owned motorbikes I never had to change either?

Best wishes,

Ryland

In harsh conditions, such as sand, mud or just not oiling it, then it could last you as little as a couple of thousand miles....

I have a scottoiler, it has covered 17,000 miles and is still only on the third adjustment mark - I estimate at least 20,000 on this chain & sprocket set and I'll change it, when they start to go, they tend to go quite quickly.

I had one go on a VFR at 9000 miles, and my old Kwacker ZZR6 would last 12,000.

It's all down to how well you look after it (and that includes how you ride too)

A good answer would be "how often do you maintain your chain?" I'm not perfect, but I do keep it oiled, and have a small chain oiler fitted. I also ride the bike through all the salt, snow and ****e in the winter, and pull crap wheelies. I got 11,000 miles from my OE C&S. The rear sprocket was ok, but the front was hooked and dead. The chain was worn enough for me to be able to curve it into a half moon, the wrong way...

Ryland... Have a look at 'LOOBMAN' on google, I fitted one and am impressed.. Its mega low tech so nothing to go wrong. Costs about �18... Loads less than a scottoiler and easy as to fit.

Thanks, will do just that.

Ryland