Got any pic's of these mounted on the bike yet? :112:

Will make the effort to take some tommorrow, bikes stuck in my garage snowed in as theres a 100ft glacier between it and the main road and theres not a lot of space to take pics (garage is full of collected useful stuff or crap if you ask the missus). now the main road is snowed in too... might be enough to run spikes if this keeps up.

Nice looking tyre. Be very interested to see the ride/wear reports etc. When you can get out of course and riding in normal wet/dry condition as well as off road.

Look nice mac, have you been out in the snow on them? I found the TKC's pretty handy in it.

Not yet as the lane to the main road has been sheet ice over the past week, its slightly better now theres 1/2 foot of snow on it giving a bit more grip. Tempted all the same if I could wash off the salty slush its going to collect but my outside tap/hose is frozen under the ice and snow too. (excuses excuses!)
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Thanks for the pictures Mac... Rear looks good, whats the tread depth on that?

E-08 is a good road tyre but bad off road.
Like the look of the swiss army tyre:luuurve:

I have used these tyres before and quite good off road. So we dont upset the Swedes please note they are SWEDISH army tyres as Trelleborg was/is a Swedish rubber company now made by MITAS.

see below copy of text from Trellesport website;-

T-644 Army Special

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"Army Special tyres as used by the Swedish Army. Excellent dual purpose tyre, road legal and speed rated. These tyres give good off road performance whilst offering long life for on road use. Excellent in Rally Type events. Cambriam, Hafren, Dyfi etc"


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Apols to OP as I seem to have added some thread drift on this. To help make amends I'll start a T63 thread sometime soon (when I next get some more pics after braving the snow drifts twix hoose and garage (upto my knees in spots).

Just ordered a set of the Trelleborg Army Specials today and looking forward to getting them. I'm going to be doing some Welsh rallies this year and wanted something with max depth on the tread. I think that these will be just the ticket.

I've entered the Horizons Unlimited Mountain Madness in July but I think that these may be a bit OTT for that, as it's mainly dusty gravel tracks. Might go for the T63's instead.

How are the SWEDISH army specials going?

Not wonderful on the road as you might imagine. Ok but don't push it. Not as much block movement as you would expect, but there again there isn't much grip on tarmac in this cold. Off road in mud and gloop, the're about the best, I think.

Well Mark, I have ordered mine today and will fit them after we have done the Afgan Hero ride on Sunday. 1st Rally will be in Wales 9th May :snooze[1]:

My tyres have arrived this morning before 08.30, I only ordered them at 2.00pm yesterday.

Hope your tyres arrive soooooooooooooooooooooon Mike :cry[1]::cry[1]::cry[1]:

Is there any more progress / feedback with these army specials fitted to the Ten? Look very interesting. Trying to pick an off road tyre with some road ability. In particular for the ryedale rally but will be used for gren laining in the UK with a posibillity of some green laning in northern France.

If not these would you have any other recomendations? Obviously thinking of the TKC but am very interested in the alternatives and these army specials look just the job.

All the best

Heya guys, as I'm poor i stuck my army special on the rear when i got back from my summer trip (the michelin was so shagged). It has been perfectly fine. Got me all through the winter (including the ice and snow) done motorway miles on it aswell. Get them on the green lanes and they are awesome.
Would definitely recommend them

Just ordered a pair and will pick them up early next week.

I have done just over a 1000 miles on mine and the tread has gone down to 10mm from the 13mm from new, which I think is very good if you know the way I ride.

So I reckon a average rider would get 3-4k out of them which is very impressive for knobby tyre, I will be happy at 3000 miles

That does seem good I have put just over 2K on my cheap Dunlop and its getting close to useless.

The original front tourance still has life left in it at 8K

oday went down to Bude and picked up a couple of Swedish Army specials for my Ten. Gwyn from Trellisport even fitted the rear to the loose wheel for me. Excellent service and a really nice guy who loves bikes. He helps out at the BMW experience in Wales with Si Pavey. He removed the old and fitted the new tyre in under half an hour and you can see he is a pro the way he handles the tyre and did the levering. It gave me the confidence to fit the front army special when I need to in a few weeks. Top bloke.

Fitted the rear Swedish army tyre/wheel to the bike this afternoon and went for a blast. First impressions are a bit slippy for the 1/2 mile and slightly strange feeling of riding on blocks and then once warmed up Ok. Did about 20 miles and by the time I got home the tyre was starting to settle down so with a few more miles will be OK. Did a couple of dry green lanes and no issue despite the front tyre still to be fitted when I do some serious offroading in a few weeks.

Dont forget to fit rim locks ,i recently used mine offroading in mid wales and due to the weight of the bike the tyres will be prone to moving on the rim .When i got back and changed my tyres back to the Tourances from the MT 21's i noticed the valve on the fron wheel had moved at an angle as i had'nt tightened the rim lock up tight enough ,i am sure it would have ripped out if there had been no rim lock in the tyre

Never do you valve locking nut up tight always back it of about half way back up the valve so if your tyre does spin slightly it wont rip the valve out

25lbs in the front and 28 in the back, the tyres won't move on the rim. The reason the tyres move on the rim is when you run at low pressure and they are not gripping the bead to the rim. With the weight of these bikes you don't need to drop the tyre pressure down like you would on a 105kg enduro bike you are just asking for a pinched tube or ripped out valve.

If you use soap (or WD40 etc) on the tyre bead when fitting, give this time to disappear. I've seen bikes ridden quickly straight after a tyre change and guess what - they spin on the rim. Definitely leave the valve nut off or fit a mousse (or tyre balls) if you're really serious

Also, my experience of security bolts is that they are OK for mainly off road, but on road the wheel is so out of balance that it makes the whole bike shake. Personally I agree with the pinch flat theory and would run a slightly higher pressure and no security bolt.. Bit of a compromise either way I guess..

I just phoned Gywn up at Trellborg and asked him for some advice, my army special has done 1500 miles and has 9-8mm tread depth in the middle (started with 13mm) I told him that I would be riding to France and doing about 800 miles off road plus the travel down to Portsmouth and return from Folkstone (120miles to Portsmouth 220 miles from Folkstone) so about another 1200 miles minimum including riding back to Calais from Lille. My question was will I need another tyre before I go or would this one last OK,
I am thinking that most companies would have said change the tyre to get more business, no not Gywn he asked what bike it was fitted to then said that it would be fine and I would not need to buy a new one has they get better has they wear.

Would I recommend them and his business.........................YOU BET I WOULD :director::winner::winner::clap::clap:

Well following our conversation yesterday Ricky, I'll be on the phone pronto and order some Army Specials too! Businesses like this are few and far between!
cheers

Ray, I contacted on his mobile. You can order them via his web site.
It was good talking to you yesterday, shame we never managed to meet up when you live down here before you moved further up north :toothy4: good luck on your trip

My rear after 3200 hard miles, just ordered another one ready for the Beacons Rally. There is still 5mm of tread left which is fine for the road but not the mud or grass

Great tyres these. Just fitted the front yesterday and took her for a spin. again once you have run the tyre for a few miles it settles down.

Going to Lakes meeting tonight for the weekend so will be doing some lanes and will let all know how the Army specials perform.

Nice recommendation Ricky-speak soon.

Mark

I have just turned my front tyre around. Have a safe trip and a good weekend

Old tyre 3000 miles 5mm left, new tyre 16mm

Mitas tyres
 

Just ordered a pair of Mitas for my Ten. Rear is a C02 and the front is a C19. Using a C02 and a TKC 80 front at the mo so should get a bit less shifting around from the front with the C19. On tarmac ? Hillarious. lol. :partyondude:

Now got a T63 front with a C02 rear. Stable front, hillarious rear. lol.

Fitted a set of army special tyres yesterday. Good service and fast delivery and easy to fit.... BUT they don't feel very good on the road going to work this morning. Trying to lean into bends is not too clever. They bob and weave in bends badly. Once the weekend trail riding is over they'll be coming off again for a more road based tyre.

What pressure are you running

try this 1st
 

"they don't feel very good on the road going to work."

don't go to work!

30 psi but will drop that down for off road on the weekend.

Thats why! I run mine at 23 psi front and 25 rear. try it you'll be surprised by the difference.

i dropped it halfway home and it did seem a little better. will double check now again and test.

Once I got use to them I had no trouble banking over on them.
The front tyre will move about on the tread due to the weight of the tenere and the height of the knobbiles on the tyre,

I ran mine at 25 both front and back for on and off road, rode to france on them last year and done about 400-500 mile off road plus the road milage getting there and coming back.

Also used them when I done the Hafern rally in Wales last year loads of grip in the mud and rocky climbs.

My honest opinion for what it is worth is the rear tyre is very good but the front is to soft for the weight of the Tenere, I think a MT 21 would be more suited for the front


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Rick