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XT660Z Tyres What tyres do you have and which are you going to try next - Road / Off-Road

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Old 22-09-10, 21:57
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Old 23-09-10, 12:03
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Right, after just over 5,000 miles these are off the bike, thank god. I can state hand on heart that these are the worst and most dangerous wet weather tyres I've ever had on a bike. Whilst they grip and slide a little in the dry, in the wet there is absolutely NO warning when a slide will occur, and it takes very little for one to happen. I have had big, as in full opposite lock, rear slides occur in 3rd gear three times, and too many smaller slides to count. I have had the front wash out and need dabbing to stop the bike from going over three times, even at sub 20mph speeds. The back will spin up without any provocation if the road is wet and I would not recommend them to anyone.
I've also had the tread on the rear crack and begin to lift, and the front is cracking as well.
If I could burn them to stop someone using them I would.

Whilst I haven't had so many scary moments with my E-07's (I treated them like knobblies from the outset) they are definately not the most confidence inspiring tyres in the wet - especiailly when they square off!!!
As I haven't done enough off road to justify having them I'm considering the E-08's as they seem to be getting good reviews and are also quite a bit cheaper than the OEM Siracs: Gwyn(Trellesport) is listing them for �39 front, �55 rear.
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Old 23-09-10, 13:03
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Whilst I haven't had so many scary moments with my E-07's (I treated them like knobblies from the outset) they are definately not the most confidence inspiring tyres in the wet - especiailly when they square off!!!
The e07s replaced a pair of TKC 80s, which in comparison gripped like cut slicks. A far better tyre. My mate Uberthumper really rates the e09s, so I hope you get the same enjoyment from them.

edit, sorry I misread your post, you're going for the Tourance copies, the 08s. Not the knobblie 09s.
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Old 23-09-10, 13:41
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I'd like something a bit knobbly but being a courier need the mileage and wet weather confidence more.
Just had the first heavy rain for a bit - scary not been able to see the road surface clearly with a misted up/wet visor!!
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Old 23-09-10, 14:43
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I got these on for 1000 Km now and I'm not happy with them at all.
They replaced the original Siracs (which lasted 26000 Km by the way) and I actually think that the E-07 are worse than the siracs both on road and off-road.

On road- as stated before, they're really loud. But I don't mind that one bit.
Had the rear slide a couple of times on turns at low speeds.
These tires constatly feel like the rear or the front are about to slip.
I also find the tires very sensitive to air pressure. A drop of 2 PSI and it felt as if I'm riding on marshmallow.

Off-road- Surprisingly enough I actually liked the siracs more than these.
The rear is constatly slipping and sliding (and not in the fun way) even when going on a straigt line.
The front isn't much better.
Most of my off-road rides are on dry, dusty trails with lots of loost gravel, rocks and sand.

If money wasn't an issue, these tires would have been off of my Ten tomorrow.
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Old 23-09-10, 17:49
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Old 23-09-10, 22:24
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I'd like something a bit knobbly but being a courier need the mileage and wet weather confidence more.
Just for reference, and since Tom has already mentioned them, the E-09s that are currently on my Ten have done about 5000 miles. They're fairly knackered, although technically still legal. Rear is square and has about 3mm tread in the middle, front has 'interesting' wear as a result of hard use on road.

Bearing in mind the original Tourances only made it 6000 miles before the rear was properly bald in the middle, I'm pretty happy with only losing 1000 miles if it means I can keep knobblies on there all the time.

I've never had any issues worth mentioning with them in the wet (I have slid sideways for about 20m across a damp Toys R Us car park, but that was playing silly ******s and trying to learn how to back it into corners, with a bit too much exuberance ), and don't ride any differently to how I did on the Tourances.
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Old 24-09-10, 00:07
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Is it a quality control problem E-O9

I love the mitas tyres but I had a mate that put them on a suzuki DR-650 (after I recommended them) and he also said they were the worst tyre he had owned as well. Maybe they have good and bad batches???

Also, as someone without alot of hair, can everyone stop referring to a tractionally challenged tyre as bald.... Many thanks.
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Old 24-09-10, 13:12
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Just for reference, and since Tom has already mentioned them, the E-09s that are currently on my Ten have done about 5000 miles. They're fairly knackered, although technically still legal. Rear is square and has about 3mm tread in the middle, front has 'interesting' wear as a result of hard use on road.

Bearing in mind the original Tourances only made it 6000 miles before the rear was properly bald in the middle, I'm pretty happy with only losing 1000 miles if it means I can keep knobblies on there all the time.
Hmmm....interesting Uberthumper. As I got 12,000 miles out of my OEM rear (Sirac), maybe I might get 8-10,000 out of an E-09!! Might consider that for the spring. How bad does the front feel?

Maybe the problem with the E-07 is that Mitas have used too hard a compound for longevity?? Might explain the cracking (which I too have suffered) and lack of feedback/predictability.

Anyway, E-08 front should be on its way with the rear being a few weeks (140/80-17 std stock but 130/80-17 is special order!!??)
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Old 24-09-10, 14:46
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12,000 miles from an OE sirac?! Crikey do you levitate? I got 4,500 and they were toast. I thought the Sirac was a good tyre, very balanced.
I've just fitted Pirelli Scorpion Trails, I'm interested to see how they fare compared to the Bridgestone Battlewings that I ran last autumn. So far so good. Huge amounts of grip, or maybe I'm being spoiled after the Mitas's. Even fresh on the bike in the rain yesterday there was no hint of movement.
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