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XT660Z Tyres What tyres do you have and which are you going to try next - Road / Off-Road

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Old 06-09-09, 13:00
Brewers Whoop Brewers Whoop is offline
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Heidenau K60s

I wanted more off-road orientated tyres than the Tourances that were OE. I've had TKC80s previously on other bikes, and know that they are cracking tyres.

However, after reading good reports about Heidenau K60s on Adv Riders, I thought it had tro be worth trying a pair - especially at �102 delivered!

Fitted them yesterday, and initial impression is very good, although that's on the basis of only about 20 miles on (dry) roads and a couple of miles offroad.

On the road, when first riding on them after being used to Tourances, they have a similar but not quite as alarming 'Oh my God' sensation to TKCs, as the lean in seems very abrupt after the Tourances. All soon feels perfectly normal, however. Good handling and braking; slight noise, but no worse than TKCs.

Offroad grip seems very good - although the tread on the front filled up when I went through a perpetually wet and claggy area. But the TKCs used to do exactly the same.

So far, I'm impressed. I'll report back if that impression changes when I've got some miles on them, particularly in the wet.

For those who haven't seen them before, here are some photos:

http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...nTenere001.jpg

http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...nTenere002.jpg

http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...nTenere003.jpg
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Old 06-10-09, 20:38
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Hi, its just a bit off-topic but - as far as i see - the little tube is full of oil (pic 2, just where the main stand is). There is a little part which is to be exchanged by Yamaha which solves this problem. If it is just a "optical illusion" , please ignore me
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Old 06-10-09, 20:52
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Might be a noobie question but are the tyres fitted correctly? As front and rear tread patterns seem opposed to each other.
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Old 06-10-09, 22:10
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It would seem like that but alot of manufacturers say that the front is better like that as its get better grip for a non driven wheel where as for a driving wheel (ie the rear) its better the normal way round ie points facing forward as it pushs dirt stone etc out the ways.
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Old 06-10-09, 22:15
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Might be a noobie question but are the tyres fitted correctly? As front and rear tread patterns seem opposed to each other.
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Good eye, but yes they are fitted correctly
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Old 06-10-09, 23:39
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hi
can i ask where you got them from or a linky?
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Old 07-10-09, 00:40
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hi
can i ask where you got them from or a linky?
fozzy17 you can get Heidenau K60s from http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/...-90-90-21.html
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Old 07-10-09, 08:02
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I got them from mynetmoto.com

Front: http://www.mynetmoto.com/motorradrei...radreifen.html

Rear: http://www.mynetmoto.com/motorradrei...radreifen.html
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Old 08-10-09, 20:30
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These look like the tires called Heidenau cats paws...

I had them on my Tenere (87 model) and thought I would share my feelings.
Firstly I am fairly inexperienced in muddy conditions.
On road in the wet or Dry, they were as to be expected fine. Lots of falling into corners, in the wet and dry on tarmac but found their place and allowed you to find a comfort zone in corners.
I am not saying that they inspired confidence in the wet on roads, but suitable

However they were diabolical off road in the wet. So bad in fact that I changed the direction of the front thinking that they had to perform better, but I was utterly wrong. half an hour later they were the correct way around, and still felt like I was on an ice ring.

On dry dirt the rear spun merrily but you had comprehensive control over the direction, it was awesome. Rooster tails and control
But
On acceleration in the wet the rear spun but not in a consistent manner, it went everywhere and was absolutely out of control.

My conclusion was that they were fine on and off road in the dry.
Ok on road in the wet, but off road in the wet - horrendous. Avoid like the plague.

Interestingly on hard packed irregular rock it was also fairly poor with little grip, and again little spun up control over the direction.

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Old 06-11-09, 09:18
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Had these on for about 2.5K miles now, and have to at least partly agree with what photographicsfaris has written.

My perception/opinion on the Heidenaus now, is this:

Tarmac: better than TKC's in the dry, about on a par in the wet.

Off-road, dry (ie gravel, shale): No complaints. Enough grip to inspire confidence to do whatever I want to do. No better than TKC's though.

Off-road, wet (ie mud!): Not as good as I'd hoped. Tread grooves, although deep, are quite narrow and rapidly fill with mud/clay. Slidiness ensues. Not as good as TKC's in this environment.

At 2.5K miles, the rear is about half worn.

Overall opinion is 'not bad performance for a good price', but I'll be putting TKC's on next time.

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