http://www.motorradalukoffer.de/index.php?Online_Shop Just bought a pair of these off e-bay. Arrived within 3 days from Germany and look great. They seem tough enough and will be fitted to some H&B racks when I get them. Thanks to Tripletom who has a set and recommended them. All in the panniers and rack should come in at a tadge over �350. Klaus is a really nice guy to deal with and responds to mails as efficiently as you'd expect a German to!