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Dear all.

I am Jaume from Barcelona. 50 y.old. I have owned 11 bikes, most of them trail bikes : 3 xt r, 2 honda xr600, 1 xrv 750 AT.

My best adventure: 1996 Rally Granada-Dakar. (Reached Dakar beach)..

My Last bike. TENE 08. Excellent bike. Just complain about stock exhaust: underperforms engine potential....

Question: have somebody already installed single can from OTR?. I like it. however I am reluctant to believe in such an extraordinary performance improvement ( according to OTR graphics...) .

ARROW and Akra, very well reputed trade marks do not get such a good results...(just compare graphics...)

Thanks for your comments and congratulations for the high quality forum..
Note: I will post soon pics of my bike and all my Mod....
Regards.
Jaume from Barcelona.:guitar player:

Hello and welcome, looking forward to the pictures! =)

Am i the only one who thinks the OTR single can conversion looks bloody awful? it looks totally wrong, like it was butchered on by some backyard redneck. or is it just me?

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Originally Posted by Peatbog (Post 81472)

Am i the only one who thinks the OTR single can conversion looks bloody awful? it looks totally wrong, like it was butchered on by some backyard redneck. or is it just me?

I saw it in flesh and compared it with the OEM in weight. It weighs much less of course than OEM and it looks well-made. However, when it's on the bike, I totally agree that it looks out of place, the connector pipe is just not in the same line with the back of the bike. I think OTR just uses the same connector pipe as it has for the R or X version, and it didn't bother to redesign a special one for the Z, IMHO. It's too bad; otherwise, it would look quite decent.

I'd be interested in how loud it is with a single silencer on there. I have a pair of microns from a Firestorm to fit at some point now the tig welder has arrived (yay!!!) and I tried a single one on yesterday, it was waaaaaay to loud, and I like loud bikes. Guess I'll be making them fit as a pair.

If I compare the look of all the available pipes for the Tenere ( http://www.off-the-road.de/xt660_ten...ldaempfer.html), the connector pipe section just lines up awkwardly - or not lined up at all - with the rear end of the bike frame; hence, the whole exhaust system looks out of place. The only ones that look best, again just the looks, are the stock and the GPR, both of which are essentially hugging the line of the rear end of the bike. Just an observation and IMHO.

I visited OTR in Koln and did see and hear the OTR exhaust in real life. The sound is great. The Ten does now really sound like a big single.

I do realize that looks are very personal. But I noticed that the pictures do not give enough credits to this exhaust. The looks in real life are much better. Especially the right side (the one without a can) looks very spacy. It is my opinion that the claim of OTR - the bike looks 15 kg less - is true.

Also, I think that the can should follow more the line of the back. But on the other hand, maybe I will order the OTR exhaust because it looks though!

Just my 2 cents ...

I agree Borus. Too bad that only OTR makes the single can (in addition to other home-made ones) that is for commercial sale. The single can, the spacious look, the most savings in weight among other systems, and the attractive sound may just compensate the look. At the end of the day, I probably have the cases covering it most of the times anyway. You reckon you may get one from them?

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Originally Posted by josephau (Post 83429)

[...] You reckon you may get one from them?

Nice to read that you agrees with me. The OTR exhaust has some negative points, but also a lot of positive points. I am not sure yet, but I think that this exhaust may be the best choice for me.

I have just got a special custom version of the OTR pipe for my rally bike (see thread: http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=10925&page=6) which is approx 100mm shorter than their standard one, and no cat.

Because it is shorter, it tucks up very neatly against the frame, and will mount directly to the subframe, although this may not work with the standard rear tail-light unit of course.

It is very well made, however it is also VERY loud, so I will be adding the dB killer - for scrutineering at least x

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Originally Posted by JMo (Post 101389)

If you don't mind my asking, what positive points you see in OTR single can which costs way more than say x-racing single can?

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Originally Posted by josephau (Post 101403)

If you don't mind my asking, what positive points you see in OTR single can which costs way more than say x-racing single can?

Hi Jo' - I'm not familiar with the X-Racing can (quick google) ok, now I am: http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqYA5Y9

(said in a Neo "whoa - I know kung fu!" stylee)

I haven't seen the X-racing one in the metal, but looking at the photos in the link above, I'd say the OTR looks (is) much better made, especially in titanium x

In fact he logo on the X-Racing can is enough to make me stump up the extra cash!

That said, objectively, there isn't much of a difference if you compare it to the standard length OTR can - although the mounting position of the X-Racing can looks to be even more out of line/place? I'm not sure about the X-Racing mounting bracket either - looks a bit of an afterthought?

On the plus side, I guess if you intend to run luggage as well, then it looks like the X-Racing pipe still allows the original pannier frame locations to be used? And the boxes will cover up the nasty logo and shiny stainless steel straps x

Ok, so I'm a tart (and a snob) when it comes to stuff like that - but the bottom line is I went for the OTR can as a) they would customise it to my specification (shorter, no cat) and b) I'm getting my front suspension through OTR too, and trust that their exhaust will perform the way they discribe...

(oh, and c) I wasn't aware there was an alternative until you mentioned X-Racing! x)

xxx

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Originally Posted by JMo (Post 101410)

Thanks JMo. Here it is with more discussions: http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=10953

I actually was at OTR last October and had their single can tried on to see if my stock pannier rack would fit, it seemed so. I also personally hand-lifted both stock and OTR's cans, and the OTR's is significantly lighter, though I don't know by how much. Yet, if I recall correctly, it was initially priced in the area of EUR 600, but suddenly they upped it by a third, and I don't know why. But all in all, you are right, it's really well made, and it sounds awesome. As to the x-racing, I can only judge by the picture and I don't know what it sounds like (though I heard on youtube on different bikes, not too impressive mind you).

I am still on the fence as a) I want single can, and b) there are only these two available. Also, I am unsure of how gas consumption increase would alter the tank mileage.
Good luck with your mods, and keep the info and pics coming.

Looking at your link above (and the new pictures), maybe it's worth a go? - although their logo is only slightly nicer now x They also sound like a good bunch of guys on their website - and for â‚¬300 you can't really go wrong? You can always Ebay it or sell it on here if you really don't get on with it?

As you say, there is a considerable difference in price between the X-Racing and the OTR system. However, I would say I am very pleased with the quality (and customer relations) I've had from OTR, so would always champion their products...

xxx

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Originally Posted by JMo (Post 101423)

Looking at your link above (and the new pictures), maybe it's worth a go? - although their logo is only slightly nicer now x They also sound like a good bunch of guys on their website - and for ï¿½300 you can't really go wrong? You can always Ebay it or sell it on here if you really don't get on with it?

As you say, there is a considerable difference in price between the X-Racing and the OTR system. However, I would say I am very pleased with the quality (and customer relations) I've had from OTR, so would always champion their products...

xxx

Yeah, Torsten is a good guy whom I met in person. He's a rider himself, self-made biz man, a one-man show but still cranks out quality stuff.

If possible would love to hear the sound of the pipe, a sound file would be great, but of course not to distract you from your project.

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Originally Posted by josephau (Post 101425)

Hee hee - I would, but it's so loud it just broke my microphone... x

I also met him on the Tuareg Rally last year (2008 edition) - he was on his XT660R Rally bike - some very nice mods there!

Who'd have thought that 12 months later I'd be building a Yamaha rather than riding my Honda?!

xxx