Hansp

mostly cold over here is anything between 10-0 degrees celcuis, but once you include wind factor that will drop and rain (british :smilies0979: rain) you can become very cold and wet within seconds let alone minutes

snugpac airpac jacket under my dainese jacket keeps you really warm ,plus point most snugpacs gear is made in the uk when was the last time you seen that

Forgot to mention my large fleecey neck tube ive got. Very similar to the thousands that are out there, its got like half a chest/shoulder covering to make sure to get a good over lap of the jacket collar and the neck tube. It fits up the inside of my helmet nicely allowing me to get it up over my nose to keep the worst of the elements away. (snot is an added bonus if you can get it):044:

Reima, Rukka, Sinisalo, coldwave etc have nice but expensive gear. Had a cheap overall from Sinisalo that I took for a spin in -41 centigrades once (on a snowmobile). Had to warm the lining of the helmet with a blowdryer to get it off my head and I had white knuckles, but other then that not any probs. ^^ might be overkill for UK weather I guess.

I am currently in my second year of using Frank Thomas AquaForce Titanium jacket/trousers.

Has outer that lets wind through for summer (LOL!) then waterproof liner that is 100 % waterproof and then AntiFreeze thermal layer that is so warm I can only wear it from about now until March. Only downside to this suit is that the outer layer gets soaked and holds water so it takes longer to dry out than I would like.

The gloves I use are funny Hien Gerick ones wich are half way to mittens but keep my fingers toasty.( Good for doing Vulcan live long and prosper type stuff).

As for boots, I use Sidi Black Rain ones (�140 ish) made of Lorica and they are always totally dry plus don't soak up water like leather ones do.

:-)

Thanks everyone for your replies.

I thought I had paid a lot for the Hein Gerrick kit I bought thinking it would be worth the investment, but I have been disapointed. I bought the PSX XCR Jacket and Zip together trousers, fancy and in my terms expensive Just over �700. soo far they have been back Becasue I got wet in the crotch, they gave me loan trousers they must not have believed me when I said I got wet. Then they replaced them becasue they were allowing water through. They also put new Zip tops on the sleeves of the jacket because they broke in half. :095:

I bought them as a fit not loose and find if I dont wear thermal long johns my thighs get cold even in the summer (When wet). There is a draught comes in where the zip together zip stops at the front (Welcome in the summer when it is hot, but not now). :confused5:

I tried oversuits on but by the time I get them to fit round there is 300mm extra on the legs and arms. I also did not see them keeping me much warmer.

I have thought of wearing normal waterproofs or even the padded ones, which makes buying Goretex kit a bit of a joke. :eusa_shifty:

I think the problem here with Snowmobile kit is two fold firstly getting it dont think there will be many shops, and second correct me if I am wrong but they are designed for dry cold not the wet stuff we get. :confused5:

The layering approach is good but what size of jacket and trousers do you get, how much bigger or do you put on all your layers and then try them on??

I dont mind paying to get the right stuff but that was what I thought I was buying when I bought the stuff I have now. :confused5::confused5:

I will check the links you have given me too see. But I prefer to try things on wrong shape for most :Lollypop_2G1DR4:when tall and slender are the HG models....:confused5:

My boots work they are Daytona leather and Goretex, do keep them dummined to keep the leather dry. Gloves, I have the summer goretex HG, pathon two finger things, Dianese ??? Water proof with a two peice sleeve Over and under your Jacket sleeve, fine until you lift your hand up to open your visor them the water runs up your sleeve eeeeeeeggggh. And a couple of summer pairs still quite new looking...:icon_clown:

As for Temperature HansP nothing like yours. as an example.
Friday 5c am damp (Frozzen no thermals thought it was still summer), pm 7c dry (Just cold). Saturday 9c raining. Sunday 12c sunny. Monday -1 dry, Today (Tuesday) 11c dry. and it can go like that all winter but there will be more rain, and even possibly colder with a little snow, but not for sure may get none this year, but will get rain rain rain. Can make planning difficult.

Thank folks :grouphug5:Round two

Can you pack some up and send it over. let me know the cost :glasses2::glasses2::glasses2:

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I do not need the ultimate in weather protection - I live in Spain for most of the year but from Ride magazine to every bikers forum I have read (even Ducatisti) everyone says the best is Aerostich - the only downside is the price and the fact that they do not have UK dealers.

colros,

The Lindstrand gear has a waterproof liner and is still very good in the wet matey. Trust me when i say that my gear has been used for off-roading and quading over the past 3+ years and hasn't let me down to date.

Cheers

WB

So far the only really watertight suit I've used is the Yoko/Scott with goretex liner. For your temp area I guess that would be the optimal suit, but I'm not sure if it's available to the Isles. I think Yoko was a Finnish brand, just like Rukka and Sinisalo, but was taken over by Scott.