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oldbaldy 30-09-08 20:41

turning cold. so.
 
hello all, has anyone fitted after market heated grips yet? as i plan on buying some to fit with the yamaha guards.can anybody foresee any problems before i jump in with two feet or hands as the case may be.:confused2:many thanks oldbaldy

maxwell123455 30-09-08 21:12

Ive not got a tenere but i cant see there being any problems. Heated grips are simple to fit really and shouldnt take too much power/watts from your bike.

What type are you going for??

Ive oxfords with the old style push button with a knob controller. They work great and the grips give off masses of heat. My dads got the new ones which have the flat push button only controller and it seems to not like being on with out the bikes revvs going. Something to do with an automatic switch off system so it doesnt drain the battery!!! Grips still work fine when the bikes going just you cant get any heat in slow/stop,start traffic as they keep switching off.

Get them on you know you want too.

Bullit 30-09-08 22:06

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Originally Posted by maxwell123455 (Post 69346)
Ive not got a tenere but i cant see there being any problems. Heated grips are simple to fit really and shouldnt take too much power/watts from your bike.

What type are you going for??

Ive oxfords with the old style push button with a knob controller. They work great and the grips give off masses of heat. My dads got the new ones which have the flat push button only controller and it seems to not like being on with out the bikes revvs going. Something to do with an automatic switch off system so it doesnt drain the battery!!! Grips still work fine when the bikes going just you cant get any heat in slow/stop,start traffic as they keep switching off.

Get them on you know you want too.

Got the same problem. Would switch off by itself when the engine is at idling revs. My first one was the turn knob switch which packed up, then bought a new controller for 20quid- the push button thingy and now that seems to be faulty aswell. Think it might be water inside the controller.

oldbaldy 30-09-08 22:46

turning cold. so.
 
ill be going for the oxfords, but im concerned about is will there be enough room for cables etc. if i fit the yamaha hand guards and deflectors? thank again oldbaldy http://www.xt660.com/images/icons/icon5.gif

josephau 30-09-08 23:17

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Originally Posted by oldbaldy (Post 69341)
hello all, has anyone fitted after market heated grips yet? as i plan on buying some to fit with the yamaha guards.can anybody foresee any problems before i jump in with two feet or hands as the case may be.:confused2:many thanks oldbaldy

Ahhh, cold. I was cold in one June morning shortly after I picked up the bike, which then led me to install the heated grips in the first 1000km checkup.

The Yamaha dealer recommended Daytona, another after-market guy said don't spend less than EUR50, otherwise it would be crap. Oxford grips did not have the 22mm size when I looked, and CLS was too expensive and too sophisticated with its sensor. Another Japanese brand, Saito, was available at sub EUR 50 and offering multiple notches at the control, but I didn't feel it was reliable purely because it's being cheaper and offering more than others.

After having searched around and talked to a few people, I decided on the Daytona heated grips, EUR 60, with just "Start" and "On" options. "Start" draws over 40w and it heats up in a few minutes, and "On" gets down to twenties or even high teens watts. I have tested them in summer in Germany as well as in my 3-week trip in Scandinavia.

While in Germany, "On" is almost useless as it generates too little warmth even during some cool August dusks/mornings. "Start" can be burning hot to the point I have to switch on and off to cool off. I was using Held gloves made in Kangaroo skin.

While in Scandinavia, I pretty much exclusively and all the time used "Start" and I was at times still cold when I was in Sweden at 6 degree celsius. In other parts when it was in low teens I was comfortable with the BMW Atlantis water-proof and climate-control gloves. At that temperature, I was using heated vest, and this goes back to another discussion on how much juice it drains from the battery. With both my vest and the heated grips on at full blast, I think one of them did not work at its full effect. I am not sure if it matters which one I turn on first, despite the fact that I always warmed up the bike by driving it for over 20 minutes before I turned on anything. I think the bike's battery can handle it, but I was just being safe.

Even the dealer installed the grips for me, the wiring got lose - somehow the heat on the wires melted the plastic connector the dealer put in - then I was so proud of myself that I fixed it and it lasted for my entire trip and it is still working :toothy9: Also, the heat melted the glue that held the grip firm on the bar, so my left side grip was lose after numerous times of twitching them when playing with the clutch. Luckily, I got another dealer fixed it up for me before the tirp. So beware of the connections and the glue on the bar.

I was actually disappointed in what after-markets have to offer in terms of heated grips. I would like to have more notches to select, at a decent price, but they just aren't available in Germany.

They are my two cents, hope they help.

xt660zrider 30-09-08 23:39

Oxford Grips & Muffs
 
I have a set of oxford grips fitted by my dealer to my Tenere. I have just been on a 500 mile trip around the lakes in absolutely shockingly wet weather.

They have been brilliant with no problems what so ever. Switch mounted on a plate which fixes to the handlebars where the bolts fasten the bars to the bike.

I also have some sports Oxford muffs which look Sh%t but are fantastic. Whilst my mates were ringing out there gloves I was still sporting warm and dry hands.

Molgan 01-10-08 05:17

Was on a trip in 2 degree Celsius yesterday, God I wished my heated grips wasn't still lying in a plastic bag on my desk at work. :D

russolivant 01-10-08 08:30

I'm planning to use symtec heated grips on my Tenere

http://www.windingroads.co.uk/catalo...roducts_id=138

They allow you to use any handlebar grips you want, and come with a flush rocker switch which you can mount in the cockpit.

I'm just deciding what handlebars to buy before adding heated grips..

I had these on my KTM950, and loved them.

colros 01-10-08 10:34

Did you not find it difficult to get the Original grips back on over the Heating elements. The last Grips I changed required the strength of Geoff Capes :naka:to get them over the bar and throttle slide. With the extra diameter I could see it being difficult.:eusa_pray:

Norton 01-10-08 10:48

Some of these on ebay at the moment

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SYMTEC-HEATED-...d=p3286.c0.m14

russolivant 01-10-08 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by colros (Post 69402)
Did you not find it difficult to get the Original grips back on over the Heating elements. The last Grips I changed required the strength of Geoff Capes :naka:to get them over the bar and throttle slide. With the extra diameter I could see it being difficult.:eusa_pray:

Nope.
I stuck the elements to the bar/throttle tube.
Then, sprayed paint on the inside of the grip, and slid it on quick sharp before the spray paint started to get tacky. The lube provided by the spray paint, allowed it to slip on nicely.

The paint should provide enough 'stick' to keep the grips in place, but some lockwire will make sure.

tricky 01-10-08 19:39

I had daytona heated grips on my xtr what a waste of money would of been better getting a new pair of gloves , on start there far to hot and on on there luck warm at best , had a triumph tiger a few years back there grips were really good had a hot and warm setting the warm setting were fine nearly all the time just the right amount of heat , the factory grips are expensive but are worth the money if your going to keep the bike for a while

jimbob 01-10-08 20:10

try heated gloves..used grips for years n thought they were ace but did have a problem in traffic with finger tips gettin cold. also with wiring direct to battery had the odd time forgetting to turn off..got a pair of widder and pair of klan last winter , absolutly fantastic..widder are a bit thick n clumsy but are mega warm..superb in subzero conditions. did need to treat them with a waterproofer as water soaked straight through..klan a lot thinner and more usable with switch gear. not as warm as the widder they dont seem to get hot..but you dont get cold mitts so must work. more water proof than the widder but water still gets through so need treating also..personally prefer the widder even though thicker but you really feel the heat no matter how cold. dead easy to wire up just leave the plug hanging out by the side of the seat no worries about coming back to a flat battery and the plug pulls apart easy enough should you forget your plugged in..without pulling the bike over..bit expensive compared to grips but well worth it..

rsvman 01-10-08 20:20

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Originally Posted by Norton (Post 69405)
Some of these on ebay at the moment

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SYMTEC-HEATED-...d=p3286.c0.m14

Hi, got some of these from a local KTM dealer for �25 (Eurotech in Ripon), Easy to fit either spray brake cleaner or hair spray on to help slide original grips back on....

josephau 01-10-08 21:47

Something to consider on heated gloves: To be a proper enduro rider, I've learned that the index and middle fingers of both hands should be on the respective levers, i.e. clutch and front brake, in order to respond quicker when going thru bumps and unexpected surfaces. I personally find that a good safety measure when riding on asphalt as well. In this case, heated gloves are too thick for me, as it causes the clutch not engaging.

jimbob 01-10-08 22:06

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Originally Posted by josephau (Post 69466)
Something to consider on heated gloves: To be a proper enduro rider, I've learned that the index and middle fingers of both hands should be on the respective levers, i.e. clutch and front brake, in order to respond quicker when going thru bumps and unexpected surfaces. I personally find that a good safety measure when riding on asphalt as well. In this case, heated gloves are too thick for me, as it causes the clutch not engaging.

yeh know what ya mean..do the m60 every rush hour n its second nature fingers on both levers. thats why i tried the gloves.. would rather struggle a bit with thick gloves than have no feeling in me fingers when havin to do an evasive ..also helps a bit having long fingers..would be knackered with short stumpy ones lol..klan are poss the better option as only as thick as ordinary winter gloves just not mega hot..also used a heated jacketliner..awesome..must be gettin soft..

bebbs 02-10-08 09:56

Have oxford heated grips on my 660x and they work fine.
Andy

maxwell123455 02-10-08 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 69470)
....also used a heated jacketliner..awesome..must be gettin soft..

You lucky so and so.... your not soft , just rich:mbounce:

joe bar 10-01-09 13:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by colros (Post 69402)
Did you not find it difficult to get the Original grips back on over the Heating elements. The last Grips I changed required the strength of Geoff Capes :naka:to get them over the bar and throttle slide. With the extra diameter I could see it being difficult.:eusa_pray:

The easiest way to refit grips (new or old) is to give the inside a good squirt of hairspary. They slide on an absolute doddle and the hairspray evaporates in a minute or two leaving the grips nice and foirmly in place.

Sounds a bit odd, but it really does work a treat. I've currently got the Symtec heaters on two of my bikes and they work just as well as the factory heated grips on my BMW.

I was off roading with 7 mates in the Peak District before new year, and it was below zero all day, the only guy riding without heated grips is fitting some Symtecs this weekend :-)

Peatbog 13-01-09 02:23

i've just fitted oxfords to my Z and they give out plenty heat. the G/F and i went around france last year, her with oxfords me with nowt, and when we encountered rain of biblical proportions she described it as like having her hands in hot water. the controller did not suffer at all from the water.

to the guys having problems with the grips switching off - is your generator/battery ok? my G/F can leave her grips on 1/2 power for 15-20 mins when stopped (engine off) without them switching off. maybe the voltage sensor in the controller is telling you something?



Pete.


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