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Chiliconcarne

28-02-08 17:49

Washing your bike with DNA #2

Hello there fellow riders.

I am improving the air intake of my XTR. I have allready fitted K&N airfilter, and now I'm considering taking out the snorkel and purchasing DNA stage 2 filter. What troubles me is water getting inside airbox during heavy rain or when washing the bike. I know many of you have done both of these mods, so I'm pretty sure that I don't have to worry. But I don't want to be pretty sure, I want to be SURE.

Am I again too cautious with my engine? :017:

Denny

28-02-08 17:57

Water wont pass the DNA unless it's submerged and you open up the throttle.

nein	28-02-08 18:00

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Originally Posted by Chiliconcarne (Post 47635)

You should only watch out not to direct high pressure water onto the filter.

Chiliconcarne

28-02-08 18:08

Bueno, thats what I thought. However with my offroading skills and lack of common sense will propably get my bike submerged.

:fish:

Tony660x

28-02-08 20:09

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Originally Posted by Chiliconcarne (Post 47638)

Bueno, thats what I thought. However with my offroading skills and lack of common sense will propably get my bike submerged.

:fish:

If thats the case then no type of filter will help you! You will be fine they are very resilient and designed to filter anything. Think of it this way even if you got it soaked its only a prefilter, your main filter is tucked away safely behind it. If you did get it soaked and fired up the motor then if it was blocked with water the air flow would increase through the snorkel or top of the air box instead of the stage 2.

nein	28-02-08 20:18

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Originally Posted by Tony660x (Post 47656)

Think of it this way even if you got it soaked its only a prefilter, your main filter is tucked away safely behind it

Are you sure ? AFAIK the stage2 filter s not a prefilter. It filters the air that enters the airbox just as the other filter and the engine sucks the air from that box. (I hope I am not talking rubish)

Denny

28-02-08 20:27

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Originally Posted by nein (Post 47658)

The stage II is a direct replacement for the original sealed airbox cover.

nein	28-02-08 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny (Post 47659)

The stage II is a direct replacement for the original sealed airbox cover.

That's what I mean, there is no filter after the stage 2 filter (or airbox cover)

Denny

28-02-08 20:33

Also, having two filters back to back would mean less air entering, defeating the object.

nein	28-02-08 20:37

I just want to make sure nobody thinks there is another filter behind the stage2 filter that "refilters" the air.

Sumary: the stage 2 filter won't let any water in but don't think there is anything else between your stage 2 filter and your engine

Tony660x

28-02-08 20:41

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Originally Posted by nein (Post 47664)

You know what I think you are right, many apologies, for the confusion, still there is no problem with water ingress, we are both right there for sure. I have ridden through torrential down pours washed my bike loads of times and had no problems at all.

Denny

28-02-08 20:49

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Originally Posted by Tony660x (Post 47665)

The oil on the filter is there to prevent water from entering as well as dust, grit & ****, hence the need to 'recharge' the filter every so often (and why foam is better). The only way water will actually get sucked through is if the throttle is opened up while it is under water :fish:

maxwell123455

28-02-08 21:07

Mate that is a great name, chilliconcarne and what a picture looks kind of freckie.

Anyway as all the other guys explained no a stage 2 filter will not let in water due to its design, but to get water up to that level would mean maybe causing other problems on on to getting water in the exhausts, or into the electrics of the bike (which i have just found out are not really water proofed that well).

Chiliconcarne

01-03-08 12:28

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Originally Posted by maxwell123455 (Post 47672)

Thank you for your comments. I think I'll have get one.

The picture is from Finnish comedy show called Studio Julmahuvi, wich translates roughly as Studio cruel fun. The guy is Jukka Rasila doing IMO one of his best roles as host of childrens show. Here is one example of their work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JIz7...eature=related

maxwell123455

01-03-08 12:51

On is a bit of a wierd video. But kind of funny when he trys and eats the fake childs head.

ManicMic

01-03-08 17:46

That's a brilliant video. Good post. :clap:

I'd love to go back to Finland again as it's a brilliant country. I miss the sauna, vodka, beer and oh.......the women. :rolleyes: The only thing I don't like about the country is the mosquitos. ;)

Tenere660

01-09-12 10:40

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Originally Posted by Chiliconcarne (Post 47635)

hello I put a plastic bag over it just in case

Tenere660

01-09-12 10:42

:smilies0345: I put a bag over my so I can use a high pressure cleaner

iShoe

02-09-12 01:05

I used to put bag but that was kind of boring... Nowdays i just put a washing rag :) just in case...

feck	02-09-12 11:18

The red colour of the cotton filter comes from the oil used to stop water and micro particles from entering the air box. It is also advisable to grease the inside locating lip of the filter when fitting to ensure an air/water tight seal. Personally I don't cover mine when washing and I would never use a pressure washer on a motorcycle. Aside from the air box, think about all the other seals, chain links, rubbers etc etc that you are essentially forcing water into...

Pleiades

02-09-12 12:13

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Originally Posted by feck (Post 178324)

Personally I don't cover mine when washing and I would never use a pressure washer on a motorcycle. Aside from the air box, think about all the other seals, chain links, rubbers etc etc that you are essentially forcing water into...

+1

I try and avoid using a pressure washer, and if I have to, only directed at localised areas of crud safely away the numerous areas where water ingress would be less than ideal.

If you use something like this...

http://www.sdoc100.co.uk/sites/sdoc1...toftheyear.jpg

...before washing, there is really no need to use a pressure washer at all, a garden hose (or even a watering can) will do the job just fine.

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