Open chains....?
 

Looking online to buy a new chain, I see some are described as 'open'... does this mean they come with a split link...? And how long a chain do I need for the Ten. ..? Steve

'Open' just means that the chain is not endless; it need needs either a rivet or split link. You can usually specify which type of link you want (or if you want endless for that matter).

There is a lot of groundless scare-mongering about split links. There is absolutely nothing wrong with them on a 50 hp single provided they are fitted correctly.

The Z needs a 110 link 520 chain.

I have a tool if you need it steve,just put a new one on mine today..

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Sorry Pleiades, don't agree on this one... I had a '96 Tenere that spat an o-ring clip-link after riding 1500km on a trip up north. Riding hope on the blacktop, the engine went from 5000rpm to zero in a nanosecond as the chain bunched up, the carrier, chainguard and sidecover were smashed, and I was worried the cases were done. But that was a very tough engine. It was still running like new when it was sold. I've never used a clip-link since. And won't. As I've stated before, I don't run a tight chain, so bad stuff happens sometimes.

But each to their own, I say!

Any chain can get chewed up split or not split. However these bikes run a higher risk of getting your chain spat out and cause all kinds of part chewing damage, all you need is for the cush drive to be badly worn so that there is a lot of play when you engage the 1st gear from neutral and a combination of a semi worn loose chain and you're asking for trouble.

Seriously this is one single cylinder with a lot of poke in the low rev, you need to make sure at all times that you have a good cush drive and that your chain is maintained (cleaned and oiled, that's where investing in a Scott oiler or similar is a must) and that you never get too much play out of your chain therefore you run it at the intended tension.

I've learnt this the hard way by disregarding those maintenance tips and commuting day and night in all weathers and then one day *SNAP* the chain got wedged so badly in the swing arm, the bike ended up on the back of the recovery truck.

Indeed. You can fit what you like at the end of the day based on what you personally perceive the risks/advantages to be.

What I would add though is, for every one scare story/scary experience there is regarding a failed split link there are tens of dozens of instances where chains have just plain broken, and nowhere near the split link, or rivet link for that matter. Over the last thirty or so years, I can safely say I have certainly come across many many more riders stranded with busted endless or rivet link chains than stuck with a split link that's failed. In fact I've probably been witness to more stranded BMWs with broken shaft drive components than split link failures.

Bad luck can happen whatever type of final drive you have fitted!

Time to own up to being dumb here......using Jo's excellent motion Pro tool to push out a rivet on the old chain, I then attached my new chain and pulled it through. I greased up the joining link...slid on the O rings both sides. All good so far, but when it came to fitting the link plate and split link it just wouldn't fit...no matter how hard I pressed or squeezed. The split link just about fitted on its own. Never had this problem back in 'olden' times!. As the split link looked more substantial than the ones of old, I decided you didn't need the link plate as well so just fitted the split link on its own. ..and I have to say it looked and felt fine. LUCKILY my tiny brain was telling me it's not right, and when I read up I found it was a known hassle with 'O' ring chains and you need to press the side plate on . This I did ....job done! . And the Tenere is so much nicer to ride with a new chain and sprockets! Steve

For anyone who will decide to go with split link, degrease small part of the outside plate where clip will be attached and put a little rtv silicone. Very very useful.

Where did you end up getting your chain from Steve?

Last time I used OTR but they took 4 weeks to send it and I don't trust using them as their service is abysmal.

Hi Chris, ended getting an X ring Gold chain from Freestyle. ..the new Yamaha dealers in Chichester. Good price too!. If you want a chain and Sprocket set CaptMoto posted a link to a good deal a while ago. Coffee on the seafront sometime. ....? Steve

Never faulted the service from adventure spec , think that's where I got my last one from,how are you getting on with all the other bits you were going to do ?..

I didn't realise they had DID in there. How much is a good price if you don't mind me asking?

Would be good to catch up. I was on Bognor seafront on Monday. On the mountain bike though not the Ten.

Jo,

I fitted the kevmod with DNA filter and cover, stuck a new front tyre on and also fitted an auxiliary fusebox using a relay. Oh and also fitted a DIN power socket which I had laying around.

Just need to sort out the chain, sprockets and rear tyre. Current tyre is getting close to being past it.

All coming along very nicely then!..

Jo,

AdventureSpec only supply the chain in 120 links. Can I use your chain tool to cut the extra 10 links off as I do not have a chain tool/breaker. I have always bought the exact length in the past and have a chain press to fit the split link.

Believe it or not most places I have called are either out of stock or way too expensive. I wanted to fit the chain this weekend as the current chain is getting a bit ropey and I didn't to wait for 'special orders' either.

Chris.....sorry for slow reply, chain from Freestyle was �55. Correct length and next day in stock. Steve

Ended up getting a DID VX2 G&B for �65 with next day delivery. The only problem is that it is 112 links not 110.

Sorry for late reply chris,i think my notifications are playing up!..I'm sure we can sort something for this coming week out..

Hi Jo.

Not a problem I carefully removed the extra 2 links using my Dremel. Will be fitting the new sprockets and chain later today.

I want to get myself a Motion Pro chain tool and am weighing up whether to get the same one as you or the lightweight one.

It all depends on what you want really,if your planning alot of lengthy traveling then go with the lightweight one,the only thing is I'm not sure if can do all the same bits,i purely got the other one because it seemed more solid and would last longer,it is heavier but overly.

Best advice I can give you is buy a DiD chain !

There are many kinds as you will see and you can just pick one up on ebay for instance BUT they are amazing. On the triumph they last for 30K km. On my Kawasaki ninja roughly said 15K km and also on there tenere sufficient lifespan !

Make certain to properly clean them though. If I clean the chain with petrol then it disintegrates and otherwise it should do just great !