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john999 29-08-15 17:35

from blackbird to xt600x advise?
 
guys i own a cbr1100xx blackbird at present to which i would just like a change to something smaller cc wise. i was offered a swap for my bike to a xt660x 2007 with 11300miles the xt has engine bars also giva rack scottoiler fitted. just would like some advice on the xt660x pros and conns as i have never owned one .i read about fuel issues on the xt so i asked the guy about it and he told me bike is fine if kept in the correct gear in town below 30mph as he has no issues with it this way. also what sort of mpg would i expect to get from the xt660x. my blackbird does about 70miles for a �10 petrol. any common problems to look out for with the xt660x . thanks guys any advice would be very much appreciated

Pleiades 29-08-15 18:17

Your guy is pretty much right about the fuelling - keep it the right gear with the revs up and the surging is not an issue. However, there are a lot of cheap and free fixes, all listed in the mods section here, that can address the problem and make the bike ride much more smoothly at lower throttle openings.

You should expect to get anywhere between 100 and 120 miles on a tenners worth of fuel on an XT. They return between 50 and 60 mpg generally, depending on how they are ridden.

These bikes are pretty reliable as long as maintain properly - regular oil changes, greasing of swingarm, linkage and head races etc. Other than the fuelling issue there aren't really any major issues with the XTX.

john999 29-08-15 18:40

thanks for the info very helpful

john999 30-08-15 01:04

yeh havent seen the xt yet guy told me it may or may not be my cup of tea as the big single motor do vibrate and are totally different to what i am used to <4 cylinder bikes>. going to see her next week just thought i would join the xt forum to ask a few things about the xt.

john999 30-08-15 01:06

do u have any regrets pepsi now after owning one?. is it the xt660x u have?

steven660 30-08-15 11:16

I part ex'd a SV650 for a brand new XTX 6/7 years ago, haven't looked back once.
Completely different animal, it might not be able to keep up with them on long motorway stretches but for fun theres nothing like. Handles through corners lovely, and you can use all the power without losing your licence :P

I rode mine for a few years before I saw the forum so hadn't read about fuelling and surging problem, and I hadn't noticed anything odd. The only issue I'd found was 30mph is between 2nd and 3rd gear, but thats sorted by sitting at just over 30 in 3rd

john999 30-08-15 19:38

thanks guys for the info. can i also ask about the tires. i read somewhere the xt can be hard on tires what sort of millage would one get out of a tire from new if looked after ie propper pressures and norml riding ? or is this like asking how long is a piece of string lol

john999 31-08-15 00:55

thanks again for the info. is there anything to look out for on the xt x when i am going to look over it this week u can tell me. its the xt660x 2007

Pleiades 31-08-15 09:49

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Originally Posted by john999 (Post 213848)
is there anything to look out for on the xt x when i am going to look over it this week u can tell me. its the xt660x 2007

As I mentioned before, check for evidence of regular servicing, either dealer stamps of it DIY, receipts etc. Ask when the oil, coolant and brake fluid was last changed. If the question can't be answered satisfactorily, then be wary. Condition of the chain and sprockets I always find is a good indicator of how well a bike has been looked after in general, and big singles are harder than multis on the final drive. Disc and pad condition is also another quick and easy to see indicator of how cherished an XT has been by it's owner.

Look carefully for smooth steering action - get the front wheel of the ground and check the headrace bearings for notchiness. Same the with the swingarm - check for play in the linkage and evidence that it's been stripped and greased.

2007/8 bikes were the fist with O2/lambda sensors and tend to be a bit more prone to surging than others with the ECU 5VK-8591A-10 ECU. See here. Have a look to see whether any fuelling devices have been fitted as this will save you a few quid in the long run if you want to sort it.

Other than general cosmetic condition, spokes and engine finish particularly, just look out for the usual stuff you would on any used bike like engine rattles/knocks, wheel bearing play, brakes, clutch action etc.

john999 31-08-15 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven660 (Post 213817)
I part ex'd a SV650 for a brand new XTX 6/7 years ago, haven't looked back once.
Completely different animal, it might not be able to keep up with them on long motorway stretches but for fun theres nothing like. Handles through corners lovely, and you can use all the power without losing your licence :P

I rode mine for a few years before I saw the forum so hadn't read about fuelling and surging problem, and I hadn't noticed anything odd. The only issue I'd found was 30mph is between 2nd and 3rd gear, but thats sorted by sitting at just over 30 in 3rd

did you not try the fuel fix then for the surging on here or did u just leave well along

john999 31-08-15 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 213856)
As I mentioned before, check for evidence of regular servicing, either dealer stamps of it DIY, receipts etc. Ask when the oil, coolant and brake fluid was last changed. If the question can't be answered satisfactorily, then be wary. Condition of the chain and sprockets I always find is a good indicator of how well a bike has been looked after in general, and big singles are harder than multis on the final drive. Disc and pad condition is also another quick and easy to see indicator of how cherished an XT has been by it's owner.

Look carefully for smooth steering action - get the front wheel of the ground and check the headrace bearings for notchiness. Same the with the swingarm - check for play in the linkage and evidence that it's been stripped and greased.

2007/8 bikes were the fist with O2/lambda sensors and tend to be a bit more prone to surging than others with the ECU 5VK-8591A-10 ECU. See here. Have a look to see whether any fuelling devices have been fitted as this will save you a few quid in the long run if you want to sort it.

Other than general cosmetic condition, spokes and engine finish particularly, just look out for the usual stuff you would on any used bike like engine rattles/knocks, wheel bearing play, brakes, clutch action etc.

thanks very much for taking time to reply with such detail it will be very helpfull to me when i look at bike

steven660 01-09-15 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by john999 (Post 213873)
did you not try the fuel fix then for the surging on here or did u just leave well along

No I hadn't noticed any surging so haven't felt the need to make adjustments or fixes as suggested on here.

It hasn't been ridden for a while as I couldn't afford the new tyres for an MOT, so am eager to get out on it this weeked (tyres and MOT on Friday)

I would definitely say check for any signs of paint lifting from the metal or patches of rust especially around the engine as its exposed to the elements

john999 01-09-15 20:22

thanks for the reply steven good luck with the m.o.t

john999 01-09-15 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven660 (Post 213895)
No I hadn't noticed any surging so haven't felt the need to make adjustments or fixes as suggested on here.

It hasn't been ridden for a while as I couldn't afford the new tyres for an MOT, so am eager to get out on it this weeked (tyres and MOT on Friday)

I would definitely say check for any signs of paint lifting from the metal or patches of rust especially around the engine as its exposed to the elements


what year is your xt also how many miles on her now. has it all been good with her over the years , cant wait to get down to look at this 07 xt660x with 11000miles

steven660 01-09-15 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by john999 (Post 213911)
what year is your xt also how many miles on her now. has it all been good with her over the years , cant wait to get down to look at this 07 xt660x with 11000miles

Cheers, I hope all is okay, It's been almost 2 years since its been garaged. Had a lot of work done on it this year.

She's an 08 bike first registered in 2009, I've been the only owner and the mileage is really low, around 4,900 mark. Unfortunately got her just before I went to University and couldn't take her with me. She got me to Warwickshire for an interview and plenty of times round the M25 to Guildford in pouring rain or sunshine. Then she was my only form of transport to work for 4 months that included some days of scraping ice of the seat and never had one problem starting.
Though all that bad weather riding did lead to this happening
http://www.xt660.com/gallery/display...p?imageid=2212

But it now looks like this
http://www.xt660.com/gallery/display...p?imageid=2214

john999 01-09-15 23:51

thanks steven for the reply . you did a good job on the bike with them b4 and after photos well done that man

bonjo 06-10-15 10:55

prob a little late but hope it is useful!
I got my xt a year after my fireblade because I couldn't stand the potholes and traffic jams on my honda.
they are like cheese and chalk, one is like a maclaren, the other like a defender.
you need to decide what you want it for.
I like it for: go anywhere (including off road), comfort (up to motorway speeds, once past 80, wind becomes an issue), reliable, low running costs, agility and excellent in urban driving. Riding at its natural past you can tour on it lomg distance without discomfort
I don't like: little to no weather protection and x wind stability at high speeds(it is almost a naked bike), engine buzz through the handle bar can give you numb fingers.
these are just the highlights.
I am happy with the fuel delivery on my 2009 but had to do the cush mod to get rid of snatchy drive on/off throttle
for me the xt works great together with my fireblade.

Pasta 06-10-15 13:13

My Ten is in for repairs after a small accident and I'm riding a Honda CBF1000 - the most boring bike I've ever ridden in my life. XT's all the way!

englishbandit 31-03-16 18:22

Hi mate I bought an xt660x about a month ago done 800 miles on it so far . I also have other bikes. Fz1n ,gsxr750. XT660 is fun. BUT if you like to do long run outs I would really think about it first. I love my xt 660x but if it was to be my only bike. I would not bother with it. It's not a bike to jump on and go down the motorway on it. I took it on the motorway last week would not want to be on it long. So when I want to jump on a bike and ride 100 miles down the motorway to the coast I will have to take one of my other bikes as the xt is not up to the job by a long shot. But if you want back road fun the xt is spot on and loads of fun. Some people will say the bike is fine on the motorway. But I guess that depends on what you are used to. If you like power to be there if you need it. This is not really it. It's just my opinion. But like I said lots of fun. But if you like to go out on good long rides this is not it. I would jump on any of my bikes and drive down to London 200 miles easy ride and back so 400 round trip .But would not even bother on the XT It would just be to much like hard work. I would say ride one first and just pop on the motorway for a bit. Hope this helps.


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