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Dancanovas 11-09-14 15:54

Xt660z front tyre feedback
 
Hi folks
I've just picked up my new to me xt660z . It's a 2011 with 6k miles in immaculate condition. I've noticed at slow speed turns that the front feels a bit heavy to steer and on slow speed bends there is a small amount of movement on the bars, almost likes it's falling off a ridge or something similar.
The dealer fitted brand new tourances to it when I collected it.
Unfortunately the dealer is miles away so can't just pop in to have them check it out.
Any ideas would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Dan

WeaveMcQuilt 11-09-14 16:13

That sounds a lot like it's just the Tourance tyres. I hated mine, swapped them after a few hundred miles.

Do you get wobble when crossing white lines or cats eyes?

Wait till the roads are wet, then you'll really hate them.

Dancanovas 11-09-14 16:40

Spoke to the dealer and they think it's the tyres as well. I've used tourances on other bikes and really liked them. The dealer thinks they need rounding off a bit. It feels almost like your going over a ridge on slow corners and turns . Filtering is a nightmare because your turning the bars left and right to correct the movement. It's fine at speed

Pleiades 11-09-14 21:17

I've noticed that with every new pair of tyres I fit to the XTZ I get the same "falling over" feeling you describe. Some are worse than others, noticeably TKCs, but it always subsides and is almost gone by 300 miles. It might be just a case of getting used to fresh tyres, but I have a sneaky suspicion that it's the rear squaring off a little that stops the feeling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeaveMcQuilt (Post 202715)
That sounds a lot like it's just the Tourance tyres. I hated mine, swapped them after a few hundred miles.



Do you get wobble when crossing white lines or cats eyes?



Wait till the roads are wet, then you'll really hate them.


+1 Totally agree with the above. I experienced exactly the same. Tried 6 different brands on the Ten over the years and the Tourance were/are the least suited to the bike IMO, which is bizarre as they are OE fitment.

Dancanovas 11-09-14 21:37

That's reassuring thanks for that

Dancanovas 11-09-14 21:45

Somebody mentioned the head stock bearings. I'm hoping that's unlikely as it's only done 6k miles and passed an MOT 3 days ago with no advisories . I've lowered the front pressure a bit from 34psi to 30 and it does seem to have reduced it so I'm hoping it's just the tyres need wearing in.

Pleiades 11-09-14 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dancanovas (Post 202721)
I've lowered the front pressure a bit from 34psi to 30 and it does seem to have reduced it so I'm hoping it's just the tyres need wearing in.

34 is way too high for the front, so lowering might just help. Handbook pressures are 30psi front, 33psi rear.

For reference, with most of the tyres I've used I find/have found that 28/29psi front and 31/32psi rear works best for on-road handling. However, it is different for everyone. Best thing to do is experiment.

Dancanovas 11-09-14 23:36

Thanks for the help chaps. I've got a 200 miler to do tomorrow so here's hoping it sorts itself out

Macca2801 12-09-14 00:32

My head bearings were nearly rusted solid at 12000km and there was no movement in the forks and jacking it up and swinging the steering felt smooth and predictable.
Riding the bike was EXACTLY as you described...falling into corners and having to quickly correct mid corner to lift it back up!!
I thought it was tyres and changing pressures etc made a small difference but then I bit the bullet and dropped the steering stem down for a loom and was blown away at the rust!!

It could be tyres although my Tourances were awesome and always felt stable and predictable till I changed them out to TKC 80, but whatever the age...check and grease the steering bearings!
Goodluck
Matt

WeaveMcQuilt 12-09-14 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 202724)
31/32psi rear works best for on-road handling. However, it is different for everyone. Best thing to do is experiment.

That's an odd one, it is down to preference.

I run mine at 33 front, 36 rear...


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