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DirtyTenere 24-07-14 11:15

Fried clutch at only 780km
 
Today I lost all clutch on my new tenere. When I looked at the clutch cable it had no free play and I slacked off the cable from the gearbox end and the lever end it moved about 2cm on the clutch arm on the box. I now have a little clutch but it's slipping under load :(

It must have been set incorrectly and I have been riding around with slight clutch on without noticing and it's finally given way. I haven't notice any slipping only when it went today. I really hoping it's just a matter of a new clutch and nothing else has gone wrong.

Hoping yamaha will fix under warranty but I'm not holding my breath as it's classed as a consumable aaaahhhhhhh not a happy camper bike has only 780km so I'm getting the 1k service while it's in the shop


Time spent without rod in hand is time forever wasted.

Chenko 24-07-14 11:30

Well, 780km is nothing, it should (morally) be considered as something covered by warranty.
Hell, this T�n has been giving some serious headaches to a lot of folks lately.

DirtyTenere 24-07-14 11:53

Yea has been a lot of negative post lately :(


Time spent without rod in hand is time forever wasted.

DirtyTenere 24-07-14 12:31

Fried clutch at only 780km
 
Yea if yamaha don't do it under warranty I think I will be getting a clutch tool and clutch kit and having a crack at doing it myself.

Don't they recommend fully synth oil?


Time spent without rod in hand is time forever wasted.

Chenko 24-07-14 12:54

The right type of oil for this bike is SAE 10W-40.

DirtyTenere 24-07-14 13:12

Is that fully synth or semi


Time spent without rod in hand is time forever wasted.

kc2ine 24-07-14 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyTenere (Post 201664)
Is that fully synth or semi

Time spent without rod in hand is time forever wasted.

it's full synthetic- I don't know why would anybody advice semi synthetic over
full synthetic...another weird advice on this forum. :(

CaptMoto 24-07-14 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc2ine (Post 201668)
it's full synthetic- I don't know why would anybody advice semi synthetic over
full synthetic...another weird advice on this forum. :(

And there you've gone and done it again kc2ine, you just had to reply in a snotty way, I am afraid I've had enough of your crap. Despite my kind approach and willingness to help you as per this post: http://www.xt660.com/showpost.php?p=201653&postcount=42

You my friend are out go find another forum to disrupt, your time here is over. After 3 warnings you are now banned for life. Your email address, your IP address are all banned. Please don't try to re-join under an alias, we will find out and delete you immediately.

Now, go f### yourself. My patience has been tested to the max.

marques 24-07-14 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc2ine (Post 201668)
it's full synthetic- I don't know why would anybody advice semi synthetic over

full synthetic...another weird advice on this forum. :(


it's to do with the braking in of the engine during the first 1000km. Lots of people recommend mineral oil during this period.

I think you will find rather than thinking the advice given was weird, you're own opinion and experience differs.
I am, however, very weird!!

Pleiades 24-07-14 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc2ine (Post 201668)
it's full synthetic- I don't know why would anybody advice semi synthetic over

full synthetic...another weird advice on this forum. :(


What you say is unfounded twaddle. The recommended oil is Yamalube 10w40 semi-synthetic for all XTs (aka Motul 5100).

Bye.

CaptMoto 24-07-14 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by marques (Post 201671)
it's to do with the braking in of the engine during the first 1000km. Lots of people recommend mineral oil during this period.

I think you will find rather than thinking the advice given was weird, you're own opinion and experience differs.
I am, however, very weird!!

Well marques, he won't be able to retort. He's been axed :headhack:

All he can do now is this :break:

Macca2801 24-07-14 18:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 201670)
And there you've gone and done it again kc2ine, you just had to reply in a snotty way, I am afraid I've had enough of your crap. Despite my kind approach and willingness to help you as per this post: http://www.xt660.com/showpost.php?p=201653&postcount=42

You my friend are out go find another forum to disrupt, your time here is over. After 3 warnings you are now banned for life. Your email address, your IP address are all banned. Please don't try to re-join under an alias, we will find out and delete you immediately.

No go f### yourself. My patience has been tested to the max.

:rockwoot::smilies0349::signthankspin::icon_salut:

kinioo 24-07-14 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyTenere (Post 201660)
Yea if yamaha don't do it under warranty I think I will be getting a clutch tool and clutch kit and having a crack at doing it myself.

Don't they recommend fully synth oil?


Time spent without rod in hand is time forever wasted.


Yeah, do it yourself.

Yamaha charged me 330quid when I burned mine.....heh it with 1k on the clock but purely my fault when I went some serious off road...

fridolin 24-07-14 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc2ine (Post 201668)
it's full synthetic- I don't know why would anybody advice semi synthetic over
full synthetic...another weird advice on this forum. :(

Well, just for the record. Yamaha does not recommend any type of oil. They recommend of course Yamaha Lube. IMHO in the case of an XT the type of oil doesn't really matter. I have semi synth in it ever since. And in bikes I owned before I had mineral car engine oil in it and never ever problems with the clutch or what so ever.
And guys, just ride this bike and don't do science about it.

fridolin 24-07-14 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 201672)
What you say is unfounded twaddle. The recommended oil is Yamalube 10w40 semi-synthetic for all XTs (aka Motul 5100).

Bye.

But in the manual, well at least in the german once, Yamaha does not recommend mineral, semi or full. It's up to the rider.

Bartosz 24-07-14 22:20

There is more polite way of saying it, but... i will agree with our banned friend :-D And fridolin. Viscosity is important, and fact that oil is synthetic will only help in certain conditions. In other conditions will make no difference and we will only overpay for the oil not having any benefits.

Pleiades 24-07-14 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by fridolin (Post 201684)
But in the manual, well at least in the german once, Yamaha does not recommend mineral, semi or full. It's up to the rider.



Indeed, it is down to the rider. But, if you go to a dealer and get a service you will get semi-synthetic Yamalube by default. It is also what is in the motor when new. It is the officially endorsed and recommended product. You can of course ask for/use a higher spec oil if you want, and they will gladly oblige! ;)

The point being though (with reference to kc2ine's comment), is that semi-synthetic oil is absolutely fine for use in the XT.

Pleiades 24-07-14 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartosz (Post 201685)
Viscosity is important, and fact that oil is synthetic will only help in certain conditions. In other conditions will make no difference and we will only overpay for the oil not having any benefits.


+1 Absolutely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartosz (Post 201685)
There is more polite way of saying it, but... i will agree with our banned friend :-D

But our banned friend didn't say what you said so correctly. He basically said it was bad advice to use anything other the fully synthetic.

DirtyTenere 25-07-14 02:56

What's the concern with using a fully synth oil?


Time spent without rod in hand is time forever wasted.

DirtyTenere 25-07-14 03:02

Thanks Pepsi for the walk though I will defenetly be giving it a crack if yamaha doesn't do it under warranty.


Time spent without rod in hand is time forever wasted.

DirtyTenere 25-07-14 03:07

Fried clutch at only 780km
 
Plus if I carry spare oil fully synth and put it in with semi for top ups if needed will it be ok?

This is what I carry for emergancy
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/25/vepesyzu.jpg


Time spent without rod in hand is time forever wasted.

66T 25-07-14 03:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyTenere (Post 201702)
Plus if I carry spare oil fully synth and put it in with semi for top ups if needed will it be ok?

This is what I carry for emergancy

No worries, I'd say.

Fridolin is right, imo. Run what you like within reason, and the Tenere won't care.
But for general Australian conditions, I think a 10W-40 is too light.

I still use Pentrite 5W-60 full synthetic (and here I duck the typed missiles flung at me from all corners of the earth. Peace, people. Peace...). I've tried others including Yamalube mineral and some semi-synthetics, but my engine seems to rattle along fine with this oil. If I did a lot of slow riding, eg going to work every day, I think I'd use a mineral to prevent bore glazing (or is it polishing?). Can't remember the difference.

DirtyTenere 25-07-14 03:52

Cheers mate I have no idea when it comes to oil in bikes.

I'm not very happy with the mechanics at the yamaha dealer so after this issue is sorted I will be going to a local bike mech who has a great rep. He won't touch your bike or even let it in his shop if it's not clean LOL I'm dead serious. I went and had a chat to him and u could literally eat off the floor of his workshop. The place looks like a dr surgery I was very impressed.


Time spent without rod in hand is time forever wasted.

66T 25-07-14 04:06

We have one bloke like that but he's miles away. ******.

By the way, all the best with your bike. Sounds like a pre-delivery issue, which stinks as often you're charged heaps for it.

DirtyTenere 25-07-14 05:37

Yea fingers crossed it all goes well. I will keep updating on what's happening :)


Time spent without rod in hand is time forever wasted.

DirtyTenere 14-08-14 08:41

Ok so when my clutch was fried I had a noise coming from the front of the bike lasted approx 20 sec sounded like a screeching noise it didn't change on revving the engine or when I braked only when the bike slowed down or speeded up it changed pitch slightly. So I put it down to something in my brakes or my clutch as it was fried and forgot about it. Now my bike is back with a new clutch it happened again same thing 20 sec at about 70km didn't change when I pulled the clutch in or used the front brakes only when I slowed down or sped up it changed pitch. I've tried to get it to do it again bit no luck. Has anyone got any ideas on what it could be?

fridolin 14-08-14 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyTenere (Post 202147)
Ok so when my clutch was fried I had a noise coming from the front of the bike lasted approx 20 sec sounded like a screeching noise it didn't change on revving the engine or when I braked only when the bike slowed down or speeded up it changed pitch slightly. So I put it down to something in my brakes or my clutch as it was fried and forgot about it. Now my bike is back with a new clutch it happened again same thing 20 sec at about 70km didn't change when I pulled the clutch in or used the front brakes only when I slowed down or sped up it changed pitch. I've tried to get it to do it again bit no luck. Has anyone got any ideas on what it could be?

Sounds like there is something loose and starts vibrating at a certain speed. I would check all screws and parts around the bike and see if anything is not firmly attached to the bike (I hope everybody understands what I just wrote:-)).

Pleiades 14-08-14 20:21

Stone/debris trapped somewhere round the forks/mudguard or maybe lodged in one of the cailpers? Have you checked the wheel bearings too?

DirtyTenere 15-08-14 00:14

Fried clutch at only 780km
 
Bike only has 800km on it so I doubt it's a wheel bearing, I can't replicated it again, it doesn't sound like a vibration just a screeching noise. I can't see anything in the brake callipers and it didn't change pitch when I hit the brakes only changed pitch when I slowed down or sped up then it was gone. Lasted 20 sec

66T 22-08-14 10:26

This happened to me after I changed the fork oil. I did the usual wheel/disc alignment by pumping the forks up and down upon reassembly, did up the pinch bolts and... intermittent screech and scrape. I could not find any reason for it. Eventually I undid the pinchbolts and tried again. The fork leg moved out about 1mm and the noise stopped, never to return. Weird.

DirtyTenere 22-08-14 10:51

Cheers I'll have a look into that

DirtyTenere 23-08-14 00:35

Yep have done that but I can't replicated to sound playing with anything on the bike or any type of riding. Hopefully was just a stone caught somewhere.

DirtyTenere 23-08-14 02:00

Yep have done that but I can't replicated to sound playing with anything on the bike or any type of riding. Hopefully was just a stone caught somewhere.

andys 30-01-16 23:20

Hi there,
I just want to ask you how your situation ended up with yamaha, did they do it under warranty? I have same problem after 1400 km my clutch was fried without any abuse. Overall I am disappointed as yamaha refused to do it under warranty.


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