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Pleiades 27-06-14 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by penfold (Post 200743)
I assume that you used the yamaha exhaust mounting threaded holes as the securing point.


Yep. Will measure up and let you know the dimensions...

Pleiades 27-06-14 22:35

Here are the key measurements...

The width across from outer face to outer face is 155mm.

The centre line of the holes for the silencer mounts is 10mm lower than the centre line of the two subframe mounting holes. (Mine has captive nuts on the inside of the silencers mounting holes which you could tack weld on, but not entirely necessary.)

You will need 2x 35mm spacers to go between the bracket and the silencer/tool tube strap mounts. Also possibly 10mm spacers to go between the bracket and subframe mounts, but that is kind of adjustable depending on how far back/forward you want it to be.

The rest of it doesn't really matter too much, whatever you feel you need to do to get the required strength. What size bar are you intending to use?

If you need anything other dimensions, just give us a shout.

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa1e29949.jpg

penfold 13-07-14 12:15

Thank you for the dims, not had the time to even think about this! Might squeeze in some tinker time later today if everything goes to plan.

Not regretting the decision to get a new exhaust, has improved the bike in sound and performance. Any doubters just do it!

heinrich 18-02-15 20:34

Here is a doubter... I like the looks of the Exan, and did already the kev-mod and o2 modification. I am not a good mechanic, but it looks easy to fit to me. The bike i own is a ABS version, would that be a problem?

Pleiades 18-02-15 23:56

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Originally Posted by heinrich (Post 206828)
Here is a doubter... I like the looks of the Exan, and did already the kev-mod and o2 modification. I am not a good mechanic, but it looks easy to fit to me. The bike i own is a ABS version, would that be a problem?

It's easy enough to fit with basic tools and skills. As has been mentioned before, the hardest part is removing the standard silencer.

The exhaust system is the same for both ABS and non-ABS versions of the Tenere so you you shouldn't have a problem there either.

dommiek 04-03-15 11:56

I'm thinking of buying an Exan oval x-black in titanium; is it road legal and will it pass a UK MOT?

Pleiades 04-03-15 15:56

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Originally Posted by dommiek (Post 207352)
I'm thinking of buying an Exan oval x-black in titanium; is it road legal and will it pass a UK MOT?

Yes and yes! :D

greatescape 04-03-15 18:57

Hi Pleiades, great write up, can looks excellent as does the tube. Like you say you can reach into it. I remember a guy at the Adventure travel Film Festival, he had to get a long stick from the hedgerow to fish things out of his tool tube!! An expensive one at that! As I say, great job, cool looking Tenere you have there. On a different note..how come you can post your photos that way?, I can paste a link but it's so much better when the bloomin photos are just there!

darkhelmet 05-03-15 09:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 200749)
Here are the key measurements...

The width across from outer face to outer face is 155mm.

The centre line of the holes for the silencer mounts is 10mm lower than the centre line of the two subframe mounting holes. (Mine has captive nuts on the inside of the silencers mounting holes which you could tack weld on, but not entirely necessary.)

You will need 2x 35mm spacers to go between the bracket and the silencer/tool tube strap mounts. Also possibly 10mm spacers to go between the bracket and subframe mounts, but that is kind of adjustable depending on how far back/forward you want it to be.

The rest of it doesn't really matter too much, whatever you feel you need to do to get the required strength. What size bar are you intending to use?

If you need anything other dimensions, just give us a shout.

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa1e29949.jpg

Pleiades, where did you get the bracket from? It looks like the bracket from the Akrapovic exhaust.

One option for me would be to check if Yamaha can supply spare parts for the Akrapovic exhaust, but then i'll have to ride all the way over to the dealership :sleepy3:

Pleiades 05-03-15 22:30

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Originally Posted by darkhelmet (Post 207391)
Pleiades, where did you get the bracket from? It looks like the bracket from the Akrapovic exhaust.

Well spotted... it is!

There's nothing wrong with the Exan bracket supplied which fits to the rear upper pannier frame mount. However, for fitting a tool tube, a two-sided mount is required and it really needs to be further to the front of the bike so it can support the tool tube in the middle.

I was lucky that I happened to have an Akra bracket to hand, but it wouldn't be too difficult to fabricate something similar. I had to make something to support the front end of the tool tube anyway. Just saves a bit of time if you recycle old stuff!

AFAIK spare parts for all Yamaha approved Akrapovic exhausts are available to order from Yamaha dealers.

heinrich 06-03-15 19:43

Thanks for all the good advice, Just ordered mine and the Exan is on its way! :icon_salut:

darkhelmet 07-03-15 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 207401)
Well spotted... it is!

There's nothing wrong with the Exan bracket supplied which fits to the rear upper pannier frame mount. However, for fitting a tool tube, a two-sided mount is required and it really needs to be further to the front of the bike so it can support the tool tube in the middle.

I was lucky that I happened to have an Akra bracket to hand, but it wouldn't be too difficult to fabricate something similar. I had to make something to support the front end of the tool tube anyway. Just saves a bit of time if you recycle old stuff!

AFAIK spare parts for all Yamaha approved Akrapovic exhausts are available to order from Yamaha dealers.

I see, i might visit a Yamaha dealer for it. I'm not that good in fabricating things from metal. I don't have the tools or the material. I'm thinking of getting a tool tube, but first i have to figure out what size it needs to be.

Meanwhile i mounted the exhaust to the pannier mounting point. But i had to use a long bolt out of my own supply. The bolt provided by Exan was useless...

heinrich 13-03-15 17:18

This week is my new exhaust arrived. And today I had the time to install it on my Tenere. Of course I was curious, and took it for a spin. The exhaust sound is quite harder, and he sounds like a real motorcycle now. What I did notice was the loud backfire and, when closing throttle, I looked back and saw fire coming out... . Of course I do not want trouble with my neighbor, and other road users. Did you had this problem too?

Pleiades 13-03-15 17:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by heinrich (Post 207625)
This week is my new exhaust arrived. And today I had the time to install it on my Tenere. Of course I was curious, and took it for a spin. The exhaust sound is quite harder, and he sounds like a real motorcycle now. What I did notice was the loud backfire and, when closing throttle, I looked back and saw fire coming out... . Of course I do not want trouble with my neighbor, and other road users. Did you had this problem too?

The backfiring is normal - it is not a problem as such. Your bike won't actually be doing it any more than before, it's just that you didn't notice it because of the stock silencers baffling and catalyst. If you don't like the popping and banging on the overrun, then just block the AIS pipe and it will all but disappear...

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=11113

What other mods are you running with this exhaust? Fuelling mod, Power Commander, air filters etc.

heinrich 13-03-15 22:05

I thought so ... Besides the exhaust I had the Kevmod and the O2 controller mounted. Must say the bike runs very smooth now, maybey it can breath free now. Thanks for the AIS tip!

srb 19-03-15 19:23

Metal Mule compatible?
 
Folks,

I'm thinking of getting An Exan oval titanium exhaust.

Has anyone got one of these fitted with the Metal Mule pannier system?

I've contacted Mad4exhausts as well.

Thanks
Simon

Pleiades 19-03-15 23:50

I see no reason why it wouldn't fit with an Exan exhaust. The Exan silencer fits within the external dimensions of the stock system (in fact it's narrower), so it shouldn't be an issue. Sorry I can't give you a definitive answer.

I'm not aware of any member who has one fitted with a MM rack? We've seen Exan systems fitted successfully with Givi, Touratech and Holan racks. However, I do know the MTC system fits with the MM rack and the Exan exhaust is narrower and more compact.

TBH, the Exan silencer mount will actually be easier to fit with an MM pannier rack. The MM pannier frames use top of the subframe for a fixing so it will be independent of the silencer, which mounts to the side of the subframe (where almost all of the other manufacturers' pannier frames fix to).

srb 20-03-15 16:34

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Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 207880)
I see no reason why it wouldn't fit with an Exan exhaust. The Exan silencer fits within the external dimensions of the stock system (in fact it's narrower), so it shouldn't be an issue. Sorry I can't give you a definitive answer.

I'm not aware of any member who has one fitted with a MM rack? We've seen Exan systems fitted successfully with Givi, Touratech and Holan racks. However, I do know the MTC system fits with the MM rack and the Exan exhaust is narrower and more compact.

TBH, the Exan silencer mount will actually be easier to fit with an MM pannier rack. The MM pannier frames use top of the subframe for a fixing so it will be independent of the silencer, which mounts to the side of the subframe (where almost all of the other manufacturers' pannier frames fix to).


That's great news. I've also had confirmation from the suppliers too.

Best get my wallet out. Thanks muchly
Simon

Pleiades 20-03-15 17:55

Exan X-Black Single Exhaust (inc. DIY Tool Tube)
 
That's good info. We now know it will fit with all the popular racks. Don't forget to post some photos here when you've got it fitted...

darkhelmet 14-04-15 09:15

Today i discovered a fitting issue with my Exan.

Where the link pipe is fitted to the header, the fit is loose. I can twist it and pull it off without too much hassle.
Also there's was no gasket supplied to make an air tight fit. But there's no space for a gasket eigher, since the fit of the link pipe is "snuggish".

The link pipe has slots cut out, seemingly for the ends to be able to fold inwards for a tight fit.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-j...o/DSC_0204.JPG

But the pipe is so strong, it doesnt really bend. I've tightened the clamp. Getting it any tighter i think something will snap.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G...o/DSC_0203.JPG

How is your fit?

Pleiades 14-04-15 09:37

Never had an issue with mine?

No gasket, smear of exhaust gasket paste and tightened up. No leaks, no problems since.

I haven't heard of this being mentioned before?

darkhelmet 14-04-15 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 209006)
Never had an issue with mine?

No gasket, smear of exhaust gasket paste and tightened up. No leaks, no problems since.

I haven't heard of this being mentioned before?

Thanks for the reply.

How does yours make a snug fit? You cant twist it around the header pipe?
The clamp must be able to squeeze the pipe, otherwise it wont clamp. And the ends of the pipe hardly move, despite the slots cut into it

What type of exhaust gasket paste you use?

Pleiades 14-04-15 13:44

It's hard for me to remember exactly, it was afair while ago I fitted my exhaust, but as far as I remember, the link pipe slipped on with a little resistance (but not much).

I used Bosal paste, the one that fits in a mastick gun. Over the years I've found it to be the best jointing compound.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Bo...ht_1488wt_1253

Also make sure the clamp is right at the end of the link pipe. Make sure no part of it is overlapping onto the un-slotted part of the tube or it will prevent it squeezing in.

Bingoronnie 28-04-15 19:55

Hi -First, since this is my first post since introducing myself, and now having got about 1200 miles down on m'new wheels, I have to say I'm utterly, totally delighted with it, especially since treating it to Kev 02 & fuel mods and DNA 1&2. As a commuter / tourer I can't fault it, I bought it on a whim but have NO regrets!
Now - I have been following this thread with interest - I've just received an Exan can (as per Pleiades') and am also busily sticking bits of soil pipe together. I have a question though - As bought, the Exan mounts to the pannier mount, not ideal. Clearly a far better mount for the silencer and the tool tube is one utilizing a twin can mounting bracket. Pleiades, I think you used an Akropovic, but I'm having no joy finding one via Yamaha dealers or Akrapovic's importers, they all say "no longer listed". Others are presumably available, does anyone have any suggestions? Or - does anyone have such a bracket that they would be willing to part with for some beer tokens?

Pleiades 28-04-15 23:32

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Originally Posted by Bingoronnie (Post 209667)
Hi -First, since this is my first post since introducing myself, and now having got about 1200 miles down on m'new wheels, I have to say I'm utterly, totally delighted with it, especially since treating it to Kev 02 & fuel mods and DNA 1&2. As a commuter / tourer I can't fault it, I bought it on a whim but have NO regrets!
Now - I have been following this thread with interest - I've just received an Exan can (as per Pleiades') and am also busily sticking bits of soil pipe together. I have a question though - As bought, the Exan mounts to the pannier mount, not ideal. Clearly a far better mount for the silencer and the tool tube is one utilizing a twin can mounting bracket. Pleiades, I think you used an Akropovic, but I'm having no joy finding one via Yamaha dealers or Akrapovic's importers, they all say "no longer listed". Others are presumably available, does anyone have any suggestions? Or - does anyone have such a bracket that they would be willing to part with for some beer tokens?

Try Moore Speed Racing for Akra spares.

Failing that, it wouldn't be too difficult to DIY fabricate a bracket that fits to the stock under-seat mounts. I can send you dimensions.

You can still do the soil pipe tool tube mod using the pannier frame mounts, but as you have observed, it just isn't quite as neat and you can't get the strap in the middle of the tool tube to best support it's weight.

Bingoronnie 28-04-15 23:54

Thanks - I'll give Moore Speed Racing a try. I do fancy having a go at fabricating a bracket myself though. I can't imagine it'd be too difficult. Would you mind sending me the dimensions?

Bingoronnie 29-04-15 22:34

Had a light bulb moment yesterday night; I work not far from Beowulf exhausts near Halifax. they don't do Tenere cans but the very nice guy there did sell me (for a quid!) a bracket from an XJ6. This can be morphed into a suitable hanger now that Pleiades has very kindly supplied me with the dimensions. Mr B. O'wulf is also supplying me with the necessary hardware - stainless bolts, can hangers , spacers etc. Fantastic!

Nener 07-10-15 11:54

Hey there,

I'm considering a new exhaust (will install it at the same time i change the rear shock). I'm looking for less weight and no cat, and Exan seems to be ok in this regards.

My concerns are:
- heat ? (compared to stock, and considering the stock exhaust has plastic shields)
- noise? I read mixed review about that. I like to ride off or on roads in "remote" area, and don't want to be a nuisance (or too much of a nuisance, as some people just don't like to see motorcycles on trails) for hikers, bicycle riders, locals etc... Stock noise is really nice for that.
As a comparison i have a leovince x3 exhaust on my wr250x (bought the bike with it), and i consider it a bit too much on the noisy side (it's acceptable but would prefer it quieter).

I assume different options (X or oval shape, carbon cap or not, material used) just change the look/weight, not heat or noise?

Pleiades 07-10-15 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nener (Post 214895)
My concerns are:
- heat ? (compared to stock, and considering the stock exhaust has plastic shields)
- noise? I read mixed review about that. I like to ride off or on roads in "remote" area, and don't want to be a nuisance (or too much of a nuisance, as some people just don't like to see motorcycles on trails) for hikers, bicycle riders, locals etc... Stock noise is really nice for that.
As a comparison i have a leovince x3 exhaust on my wr250x (bought the bike with it), and i consider it a bit too much on the noisy side (it's acceptable but would prefer it quieter).

I assume different options (X or oval shape, carbon cap or not, material used) just change the look/weight, not heat or noise?

Heat - Personally I think there is less, particularly around the seat area. Unsurprising really as there is no catalyst and the whole setup is more open to air flow.

Noise - Again, it's a personal thing, but noise (or lack of it) was one of my key priorities in choosing an exhaust. The Exan (with baffle in) is what I would describe as discretely throaty, certainly not offensive and won't attract unwanted attention. Nobody I've ridden with, or anyone else for that matter has mentioned it as being loud. I suspect the oval and round versions will be quieter than the X-Black as they have a physically bigger silencer with more room for sound deadening material. (With dB killer out, it is loud!)

The X-Black is the lightest of the three styles at a shade under 1.5Kg for the whole lot (titanium version), including link pipe and all the fittings. 6Kg less than stock and 5Kg less than a pair of Akras or Leos.

Nener 08-10-15 20:48

Thanks Pleiades,

Exan is a good option then. Good thing, as I don't see other pretenders (forgot to say i want the exhaust to be CE approved)

Pleiades 08-10-15 21:40

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Originally Posted by Nener (Post 214919)
forgot to say i want the exhaust to be CE approved

All the Exan systems for the XT are CE approved.

srb 08-10-15 22:18

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Originally Posted by Bingoronnie (Post 209741)
Had a light bulb moment yesterday night; I work not far from Beowulf exhausts near Halifax. they don't do Tenere cans but the very nice guy there did sell me (for a quid!) a bracket from an XJ6. This can be morphed into a suitable hanger now that Pleiades has very kindly supplied me with the dimensions. Mr B. O'wulf is also supplying me with the necessary hardware - stainless bolts, can hangers , spacers etc. Fantastic!

Thanks to Mr Pleiades for info throughout this thread. Finally got round to my soil pipe mod. Spotlights next.

Nener 10-10-15 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 214920)
All the Exan systems for the XT are CE approved.

Yes, i know that, another good point. What I meant is that there is not a lot of choice for CE approved single decat exhaust.

lankyrider 23-12-15 16:41

This seems to be the spot for Exan tips and advice.

Disclaimer: I am far from a mechanic.

I've got the stock pipe off ok. The original gasket melted on a bit so I've had to chip away at the bulge of mess that has left. With the best part of that off, I'm trying to fit the link pipe. I don't think I'm getting it far enough on because the exhaust itself seems to be in the wrong place if I put it all together.

'm wondering how much play should there be, or how far on should the link pipe be, in the first instance before putting on the clamp? Any tips or advice of any kind would be really appreciated. I have the Exan oval classic.

Pleiades 23-12-15 17:40

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Originally Posted by lankyrider (Post 216892)
This seems to be the spot for Exan tips and advice.

Disclaimer: I am far from a mechanic.

I've got the stock pipe off ok. The original gasket melted on a bit so I've had to chip away at the bulge of mess that has left. With the best part of that off, I'm trying to fit the link pipe. I don't think I'm getting it far enough on because the exhaust itself seems to be in the wrong place if I put it all together.

'm wondering how much play should there be, or how far on should the link pipe be, in the first instance before putting on the clamp? Any tips or advice of any kind would be really appreciated. I have the Exan oval classic.

The link pipe should slide onto the 'Y' pipe at least the width of the clamp (and a little more). Bear in mind that the oval and round cans are a little longer than the X-Black and as a result the tail outlet will sit a bit further back than in the photos of mine.

Here's a picture that may help gauge the positioning of the parts...

https://www.speedycom.co.uk/shop/ima...0carboncap.jpg

lankyrider 23-12-15 17:46

Thank you, that's a useful gauge. I wasn't clear on how much work the clamp should be doing so that helps.

And thanks for the higher quality photo. I'll have another crack when the sun rises tomorrow in that case.

lankyrider 24-12-15 23:14

Thanks for your help guys. I'l put some pictures up once I find a host for the images, it's Christmas come a little early for me!

lankyrider 12-01-16 13:42

Quick one - I've made no fuelling/air filter/intake mods at all, and just stuck on the exan oval classic. I wanted to clarify that no further mods are necessary for the can to work ok with stock fuelling. I will upgrade filter with an OTR air filter but am happy with performance for now.

Pleiades 12-01-16 14:12

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Originally Posted by lankyrider (Post 217353)
Quick one - I've made no fuelling/air filter/intake mods at all, and just stuck on the exan oval classic. I wanted to clarify that no further mods are necessary for the can to work ok with stock fuelling. I will upgrade filter with an OTR air filter but am happy with performance for now.


You'll be fine with the stock fuelling with just the exhaust.

lankyrider 14-01-16 21:22

Thanks again Pleiades


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