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Torque wrench advice
Hi there,
I am trying to put together a small tool set that allows to carry out standard maintenance on my Ten. My question is about torque wrenches (bear with me, I am only a IT engineer with "some" experience on mechanics:confused3:) How many torque wrenches do you need to be able to set torque on most of the Ten's nuts and bolts? Which is the minimum set I should have on my toolset? Do I need to get several ranging different torques? Is there any wrench out there that I can use on all the bike? I would like to be able to set the torque on wheel axles, sprockets, engine bolts, oil drain bolts, brake calipers, etc etc. Any link to torque wrenches of your choice will be more that welcome. Cheers |
There is nothing wrong with the halford stuff, I have two of them that cover everything:
This one does nearly every job you need it for -> http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...egoryId_165469 There are only a few fasteners that require more than 60Nm, mostly structural stuff, wheels nuts etc. Everything else is mostly 10-30Nm, although there are some that are 5Nm. For a second wrench to cover the stuff over 60Nm then here -> http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...egoryId_165469 Machine Mart is always a good place to look for tools, and there is usually a shop within riding distance. Many to choose from -> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/se...ype/any/page/1 Ideally. something that ranges from 5 - 60Nm will be good for most stuff on the bike. You may need to consider a 3/8 to 1/2 adapter too depending on what you purchase, sometimes it can be difficult to get the 1/2 sockets into places. You'll need one going the other way too, in case your 3/8 drive wants to use a 1/2 socket - depends on your wrench and your socket set to get the right match. |
3/4" ? :103:
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Ball-locks.
Typo... 3/8..... Old fashioned measurements for old fashioned people.... |
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Very useful comment. As expected, at least two to cover all jobs on the bike. I guess it makes sense to go for the 8-60Nm initially. I will have a look to the torques for the more common operations. I also saw this on MachineMart on the website: http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...C=RV-060810610 Do you think this will be able to tighten bolts to an specified torque?? Cheers |
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In the meantime, from the spec it looks like it just tightens everything to 170Nm, which is quite tight and will certainly strip many of the threads on the bike! I don't have one (never found the need as my manual Impact Driver has always got me out of trouble) but if I did I would only use it for the undoing of stubborn nuts/bolts, using a more accurate torque wrench for tightening. Of course it's just my opinion, others may differ. |
I have one of
these, which will do 10-80Nm - good kit at a fair price. Will do everything on the bike except the steering stem nut, swingarm pivot bolt and rear axle nut. I have a bigger 1/2" drive one for these that I've had for donkey's years. There is, as mentioned, a few 5 and 7Nm fasteners, but I've always done them by "feel".
Adapters are always handy, but remember, the more links (adapters, extention bars etc) you put between the torque wrench and the nut/bolt, the less accurate it will be (especially when the torque setting is very low) and never use a universal joint adapter or wobble bar, as you'll end up miles out. |
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I've used Tooled-up for a number of things, they have always been very good. |
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Do not buy a TW for the bike you have, buy them for a life time you'll need two small one and a big'un that runs well over a 100 there's plenty of bikes out there need it,might not be now but little point in buying twice.
I didn't think I needed one after a life time of getting away without using one until I found out hanging on a breaker bar for all I was worth wasn't enough!!! At the same time anything under 20nm what you need is common sense not a TW. |
This is probably going to get my arse kicked for me but I only ever use torque wrenches on super critical stuff like head bolts, cam holders, big ends and the like.
Everything else I just do up tight or really tight if it s something that will kill me if it comes undone... so far that has served me well and I've been taking cars and bikes apart for over 20 years now. I do love that satisfying click of a torque wrench though, you got to get one. I bought a Halfords one that ranges from 10-60 I think and that's been great. Remember to store it with the torque setting at zero as they stay calibrated longer. One thing the TW taught me was that nothing ever has to be done up as tight as you think it might. |
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I often do the same, with the words of wisdom from my dad in my ear.... "Tight's tight, and too tight's f*ck*d" |
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http://www.tooled-up.com/product/dra...-wrench/15135/ http://www.tooled-up.com/product/dra...-wrench/15609/ I will hope for the best with my common sense on <10Nm ones These should be valid for next generations of bikes in my garage :) |
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It should tell you on the instructions. I noticed it just before I tossed them in the bin....
I never read them lol.... |
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I remember my old man teaching me stuff when I was tiny, I can remember him saying "Lefty loosey - Righty tighty" My little one uses it now...... :team[1]: |
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Here we go then!!!
Up until 2000 I'd been spannering my own bikes for 31 years yes I'm that old!!!,torque wrench WTF needs one of those!!,I'd just bought an almost new R1100s took the back wheel off to fit a hugger and put it all back together put the 4 bolts into the back wheel and with a socket and bar hung on them till I thought it was ok. Went and tested the bike did a couple of miles and came back,coming back the back brakes felt spongey,got back on the drive and checked what was going on!! the wheel was falling off,when I checked on the net I find the torque setting is 105nm per bolt and realise I wasn't the smart arse I thought I was and went and bought two TW's and have used them both ever since,apart from low settings and I don't use them on sump bolts. Oh and I still have the bike!! |
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TWs give good piece of mind! |
Hi there,
thanks for your comment guys. I finally order the following on tooled-up.com: http://www.tooled-up.com/product/dra...-wrench/15135/ http://www.tooled-up.com/product/dra...-wrench/15609/ http://www.tooled-up.com/product/dra...-socket/13546/ http://www.tooled-up.com/product/dra...tee-bar/20671/ http://www.tooled-up.com/product/dra...2-drive/15627/ Sliding tee bar and 22mm socket (high torq) for the rear axle. The idea is to have as few tools as possible. I have got a socket (3/8") set already that will cover the smaller sizes needed for other pieces on the bike. The only part I am still missing is the Hex bit 14mm for the front axle. Any idea whether this would do the job? http://www.tooled-up.com/product/dra...lug-key/16086/ Edit: after searching in the forum I confirmed that drain plug keys do the job for the front axle. Cheers |
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/KS-Tools-911...dp/B001NYX2WK/ http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...0L._SY355_.jpg Got a 1/2" bar in my tool tube. |
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I will give a try to the Draper plg drain key and see. Thanks for letting me know anyway. cheers |
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Worth checking the sump bung torque against the front spindle and take a view on it's suitability from there I would be inclined to use the socket with the Allen key insert, rather than a cast one. It will no doubt work, I just live by the mantra 'buy once' Your choice at the end of the day. |
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Anyway, I found that, at least in tooled-up/Amazon, the information about how much torque a specific piece can take is generally missing :sad10:
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http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?...ght=Drain+Plug At the on of the day, 60Nm torque is not a massive, or is it?:eusa_think: I am sure I will get more familiar weith torques once I have the new toys at home :unibrow: I will write back with the final result. Thanks again for you help |
You'll be fine with a drain plug hex socket. Some sump drain plugs are as low as 10Nm, but other vehicles I've had have been up to 80Nm. Any sump tool from a reputable manufacturer is going to cover all ends plus some in hand.
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