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Spinner Dan 17-10-13 06:09

Could be a long shot - especially since I'm not too sure of the tener exhaust set up - but from new my XTR vibrated badly. Turns out that one of the pipe clamps that connects the header pipe to the muffler was welded on at a funny angle. When the pipe clamp was tightened, the tightening-bolt was so close to the frame that it made contact when the engine was running (only when the engine was running and worse at certain revs) - causing annoying vibes. I grinded (ground?) away end of the bolt to shorten it and - no vibes... well, just the standard vibes.
Anyway, maybe something else to have a look at.

Big Den 17-10-13 13:33

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Originally Posted by Spinner Dan (Post 193082)
Could be a long shot - especially since I'm not too sure of the tener exhaust set up - but from new my XTR vibrated badly. Turns out that one of the pipe clamps that connects the header pipe to the muffler was welded on at a funny angle. When the pipe clamp was tightened, the tightening-bolt was so close to the frame that it made contact when the engine was running (only when the engine was running and worse at certain revs) - causing annoying vibes. I grinded (ground?) away end of the bolt to shorten it and - no vibes... well, just the standard vibes.
Anyway, maybe something else to have a look at.

Thanks for this Dan, this is the sort of silly thing I am hoping to find as I am convinced its something daft, I will take a look, cheers

Gonna have another good go at it this weekend

Filled up with 98 octane this morning too :thumbsup: cos you never know

Pleiades 17-10-13 20:13

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Originally Posted by Big Den (Post 193090)
Filled up with 98 octane this morning too :thumbsup: cos you never know

I'd be a little cautious searching for an improvement with a fresh tank of fuel, as any improvement in vibrations (from whatever is causing the issue) will be masked by the fact the XTZ vibrates more (particularly through the bars) with a full tank than a half full, or nearly empty one.

Mike101 18-10-13 15:00

I've never noticed this on mine. I thnk mine rides better and feels smoother with a full tank.

mike

Big Den 22-10-13 11:00

Well half way through 1st tank of dear stuff, no change.
I have checked all exhaust clamps and none are touching the frame :011: that would have been a great easy fix.
I have emailed the previous for any clues as I am loosing patience and getting to the point where I may have to put it into a stealers which is going to cost big coin I suspect where I would prefer to fix it myself.
Think I may put the std exhaust back on too although no one has mentioned this being a poss cause ?
One that came to me in the early hours, what are the symptoms of being out I tooth on the cam timing ? or would it just not run ? maybe clutching at straws but need to get it sorted as I am wanting to ride it less and less.

Mike101 22-10-13 11:42

The only thing to do is to meet with somebody who has a Tenere without vibration problems and compare.

Thats the only way to tell if it's the bike or not.

You need to try this before doing anything else just to make sure.

As i've previously said mine was really bad fomr 2.5k until 4k. Then it sort of went away and now i find it very smooth indeed.

It was so bad that i was trying to swap it for somehting without loosing to much money..so i understand fully where you are at.

I'm near Salisbury if i can help.

Mike

Gibbo1974 22-10-13 11:52

I would imagine it would run like an out an out dog if at all if it had been setup wrong on the timing chain front.

It may throw an engine light too.

My guess is it's not that.

I'm gonna go back to beginning of the post to see what you have done and see if I can think of anything .

Gibbo1974 22-10-13 12:08

Ok you have tried loads of stuff.

I would check front wheel balance anyway as you never know and a big single will always vibe like mad went revv'ed standing still. Mine is super smooth but when standing still and slowly going up in rev's at about 3800/4000 the front starts vibing like mad but that doesn't happen on the road. So you could be wrongly diagnosing that one. stick a wheel weight on or pull one off and see if it changes. (worth a shot)

You mention that it's definitely engine related because it still vibes with the clutch pulled in and just a few revs? is that while you are going along ? because to me that would suggest running gear and not the engine as any engine vibes should disappear when you pull the clutch and go to tickover.

Are the handle bars standard ? is that where your major complaint on vibes is coming from ? if so try shortening them by half an inch or more if you are comfortable with narrower bars, vibrations through bars is all about frequency and if you change the length of the bars it will help.

have you filled the bars up with sand ? some people do and say good things about that.

front tyre pressure and trueness of the tyre, I chased an unbalanced wheel on an audi for weeks and it turned out to be an oval tyre (it was brand new and had a defect)

check the timing as you suspect it, it shouldn't be hard to check, not sure on the Ten as I haven't delved into it yet but there's probably and inspection hatch somewhere.

so is this what is happening? you are driving at say 70 and getting vibes and you pull the clutch and are still doing 70 and the vibes haven't changed at all ? that's running gear.

Big Den 23-10-13 09:57

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Originally Posted by Mike101 (Post 193283)
The only thing to do is to meet with somebody who has a Tenere without vibration problems and compare.

Thats the only way to tell if it's the bike or not.

You need to try this before doing anything else just to make sure.

As i've previously said mine was really bad fomr 2.5k until 4k. Then it sort of went away and now i find it very smooth indeed.

It was so bad that i was trying to swap it for somehting without loosing to much money..so i understand fully where you are at.

I'm near Salisbury if i can help.

Mike

Thanks mike very generous offer

SimonRoma 23-10-13 10:03

Talk to Brian, the sevice manager at Alf Englands, they are fairly near you and Brian is a very helpful fellow and may have some ideas??????


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