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660Z09 24-09-13 16:34

Just joined - have a question...
 
Hi, I am a new Tenere owner who just joined this site and am overwhelmed with the quality of information here! I have a question but just want to apologise in advance in case the topic has been addressed many times in the past!

I am interested in buying the following 3 items from OTR.
Firstly, would there be any problems installing them together?
If not, would this combination be the best in terms of improving performance?
And lastly, would I need anything else before installing these filters for them to work without issue?

(1) DNA Stage 3 air filter XT-660 Z ( http://www.off-the-road.de/en/XT-660-Z-Tenere/XT-Power/DNA-Stage-3-air-filter-XT-660-Z.html )

(2) DNA High Flow Airfilter XT-660 Z Tenere '08- ( http://www.off-the-road.de/en/XT-660-Z-Tenere/XT-Power/DNA-High-Flow-Airfilter-XT-660-Z-Tenere-08.html )

(3) Power Commander V XT660Z + O2 Optimizer ( http://www.off-the-road.de/en/XT-660...Optimizer.html )

Any answers would be much appreciated! :)

Al

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 24-09-13 16:46

Firstly, Welcome.

The three items you have listed are designed to work together, in fact you shouldn't really run the DNA filters without a fuel modification, especially the Stage 3.

The Stage 3 filter hasn't really proved very popular, if you take a look through the forum some people have actually taken it off. The main reasons for this are;
1) it's gets damaged by off-road boots
2) it's benefits are for top end performance
3) it lowers your wading depth

You will need the both Stage 1 and 2 unless you are going to cut your snorkel off. The DNA cover is stiffer than a cut down snorkel, and in my opinion better at keeping a seal, but others have functioned perfectly OK by cutting out the snorkel.

You'll need to get a PC-V map suitable for the DNA's a few of us have this setup so a map is easily sourced, unless you want to put your bike on a Dyno. Obviously you'll get a more 'personal' map for your bike on a Dyno, over a 'standard' map (that isn't very far out anyway)

Gibbo1974 24-09-13 16:56

I'm not an expert but you could save a fortune by:

Fitting the Kev 02 sensor mod.
Fitting DNA stage 1 and 2.
Fitting the Kev Fuel Mod.

Those PCV's are bloody expensive.

kinioo 24-09-13 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibbo1974 (Post 192344)
I'm not an expert but you could save a fortune by:

Fitting the Kev 02 sensor mod.
Fitting DNA stage 1 and 2.
Fitting the Kev Fuel Mod.

Those PCV's are bloody expensive.


I would go this route...

Pleiades 24-09-13 19:28

:006: Welcome on board Al

Have a read of this before you commit to buying the stage 1-2-3 combo, it explains all the hp/torque gains (and losses) with the various setups.

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?p=118359

Sadly the dyno graph image link seems to have disappeared though, but the text explains it all.

660Z09 25-09-13 07:44

Thank you all for your help!
Gas_Up_Lets_Go, appreciate that extra info on the stage 3 - maybe a no-go given the stock plastic cover is already scuffed from my boots.
Now just wondering where I can get Power Commander Maps for the Tenere.......any ideas?
Cheers! :)

Seahorse 25-09-13 13:58

Mate, if you have an Australian XT660Z, it will already have a foam air filter fitted.

Simply buy a DNA airbox mod and the Kev mods. This will make a huge difference to the way the bike performs....then go ride it.

Put the money you were going to spend on the Power Commander towards upgrading the front forks by fitting Ohlins springs and Tekniks T-Valves. This mod alone will give you more satisfaction than playing with FI mapping.

Next consider fitting Excel rims, as the standard rims are as soft as butter, something you will soon find out if you push the bike hard in the Aussie bush

hebbo 25-09-13 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibbo1974 (Post 192344)
I'm not an expert but you could save a fortune by:

Fitting the Kev 02 sensor mod.
Fitting DNA stage 1 and 2.
Fitting the Kev Fuel Mod.

Those PCV's are bloody expensive.

Is changing the exhaust also a must if you want to fit these on the Tenere?

Thanks

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Gas_Up_Lets_Go 25-09-13 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by hebbo (Post 192362)
Is changing the exhaust also a must if you want to fit these on the Tenere?

No, a different exhaust will pretty much give you less weight (so easier to pick up!) and some will give you more lower end torque (MTC single can for instance) but there is no requirement for fuel modifications to support a new can. And there is no requirements for a new can to support fuel/airbox mods.

The airbox/fuel mods will give you more noticeable improvements over a can.

Of course, most performance upgrades will give little amounts of improvement, add them all together and you have a very different bike. For example, Keithblade has a standard bike, I have DNA S1 & S2, PC-V, O2 Tuner and MTC Single Can. I'm much heavier than Keith too, yet my bike can out pace Keiths' quite noticeably.

660Z09 26-09-13 04:34

Cheers Seahorse, will check those out

hebbo 29-09-13 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 192368)
No, a different exhaust will pretty much give you less weight (so easier to pick up!) and some will give you more lower end torque (MTC single can for instance) but there is no requirement for fuel modifications to support a new can. And there is no requirements for a new can to support fuel/airbox mods.

The airbox/fuel mods will give you more noticeable improvements over a can.

Of course, most performance upgrades will give little amounts of improvement, add them all together and you have a very different bike. For example, Keithblade has a standard bike, I have DNA S1 & S2, PC-V, O2 Tuner and MTC Single Can. I'm much heavier than Keith too, yet my bike can out pace Keiths' quite noticeably.

Thanks mate. I have been thinking about whether I need the fuel mod and the DNA 1&2, but seems like a good option.
Well go for the 02 sensor mod too.

I am more interested in improving the 'rideability' of the bike more than getting more power. Can't wait to have these mods fitted.

Thanks

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bikemad195 29-09-13 13:55

as a rule of thumb there is no point increasing the intake if still restricted by the exhausts same the other way aswell if you want more into the engine then u need to get more out and quickly


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