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marques 04-05-13 01:04

In japan
 
Just picked up a second hand xt660z tenere 09 model in japan with 29000. Ironically which is imported as they are not sold here in japan. So lots of admirers, shame its always blokes though. Keeps her indoors happy.

It came with after market exhausts, heated grips and i have ordered a (dna filter stage 2(3) (what does 2(3) mean, like its 2 but could be a 3 just to keep you guessing), kev fuel mod and ard panniers.

I must have read every post on the site twice over (apart from the rules). And have to say i am one confused mess.

The source of my confusion is which mods are for which models.

As stated in many posts the bikes run out of the box, but clearly i want it running in the best working condition as i can.

Can any body advice me as to which modifications are suited to my model. i am aware of the rectifier problem and cush dives being frequent problems.
But what about the CO2 adjusting up 10 points etc is that applicable to my model?

And tires how many times have i read that forum. Which tires are for me no idea. 80 percent on road (work) about 140 km everyday and a little mud and mainly forest tracks on the weekend. Other things to consider is i ride in the rainy season with heavy panniers (work). Usual answer is buy a car. My reply is always f************* beautuful wife.
Due to heavy panniers considering getting wider tyres, upgrade chain and sprockets but which tyre?
Considering tkc80 or tourance ex or (avon distanzia (maybe not this because too difficult to change)(no close bike shop)) i like the sound of tkc80 as many people say there easy to change, can handle light of roading and have good mileage. Worried about the long road work and heavy rain.

As i understand many people are exchanging their front sproket to 14 tooth to increase low gear power. After some research it is adviced elsewhere not to decrease the front sprocket as this increases ware to expensive parts but to increase th rear sprocet by two to four teeth. Is this advisable?

Also with regards to the rectifier would it be safe to assume that if after 29000 km on the clock without trouble then i the part is not faulty?

Finally is anyone making and selling any long lasting cush dives? It seems like a easy way to make a few quid for the right person.

CaptMoto 04-05-13 04:54

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Originally Posted by marques (Post 187265)
Just picked up a second hand xt660z tenere 09 model in japan with 29000. Ironically which is imported as they are not sold here in japan. So lots of admirers, shame its always blokes though. Keeps her indoors happy.

It came with after market exhausts, heated grips and i have ordered a (dna filter stage 2(3) (what does 2(3) mean, like its 2 but could be a 3 just to keep you guessing), kev fuel mod and ard panniers.

I must have read every post on the site twice over (apart from the rules). And have to say i am one confused mess.

The source of my confusion is which mods are for which models.

As stated in many posts the bikes run out of the box, but clearly i want it running in the best working condition as i can.

Can any body advice me as to which modifications are suited to my model. i am aware of the rectifier problem and cush dives being frequent problems.
But what about the CO2 adjusting up 10 points etc is that applicable to my model?

And tires how many times have i read that forum. Which tires are for me no idea. 80 percent on road (work) about 140 km everyday and a little mud and mainly forest tracks on the weekend. Other things to consider is i ride in the rainy season with heavy panniers (work). Usual answer is buy a car. My reply is always f************* beautuful wife.
Due to heavy panniers considering getting wider tyres, upgrade chain and sprockets but which tyre?
Considering tkc80 or tourance ex or (avon distanzia (maybe not this because too difficult to change)(no close bike shop)) i like the sound of tkc80 as many people say there easy to change, can handle light of roading and have good mileage. Worried about the long road work and heavy rain.

As i understand many people are exchanging their front sproket to 14 tooth to increase low gear power. After some research it is adviced elsewhere not to decrease the front sprocket as this increases ware to expensive parts but to increase th rear sprocet by two to four teeth. Is this advisable?

Also with regards to the rectifier would it be safe to assume that if after 29000 km on the clock without trouble then i the part is not faulty?

Finally is anyone making and selling any long lasting cush dives? It seems like a easy way to make a few quid for the right person.


:hello: and :welcome: to :660:

I have a pdf file which was prepared for XT660Z Tenere owners by Dino Nicolaidis who is the MD of DNA Filters Ltd and chief designer and it explains in full details the various stages of filters available and their result in performance.

Here is the link: http://www.captnmoto.co.uk/Stats/XT660ZStage123.pdf

Good luck

marques 04-05-13 07:56

Thank you for the link
 
Dear captain Read the pdf. I am very glad i read it because i was on the verge of ordering a stage 1 but it seems its included.
Any other advice regarding my first post.

bluecoup 04-05-13 08:05

Hi and welcome, I'm sure all your questions will be answered soon enough, tyres in my opinion you'd be better changing for the rainy season
It's not like the rain we get in the uk,
Don't think you'll be able to I'm much wider as you'll be hitting the chain swing arm etc
And you'd effect the way the bike handled as the sidewalls would be at angles it's not designed for

Mort 04-05-13 08:37

Hi:aska[1]:and welcome .Yes the modifications carried out by owner are con fusing.:048:

Pleiades 04-05-13 08:46

:006: Welcome aboard mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by marques (Post 187265)

The source of my confusion is which mods are for which models.

Can any body advice me as to which modifications are suited to my model.

But what about the CO2 adjusting up 10 points etc is that applicable to my model?

You cannot adjust the CO on the XTZ unless you buy one of these. It doesn't make a whole lot of difference on the Tenere either as the surging was/is not so much of an issue as it is on the R/X models.

And tires how many times have i read that forum. Which tires are for me no idea. 80 percent on road (work) about 140 km everyday and a little mud and mainly forest tracks on the weekend. Other things to consider is i ride in the rainy season with heavy panniers (work).

Tyres are a matter of personal taste - you'll end up with a million-and-one different answers (as you've already found!) ;)

Due to heavy panniers considering getting wider tyres, upgrade chain and sprockets but which tyre?

You can only really fit a 140 on the back as an alternative, and that won't make much difference although it does have a slightly higher load rating. You can get 525 chain and sprocket set to replace the standard 520 from here. Most find the standard tyre/chain combination fine when loaded up though?

Considering tkc80 or tourance ex or (avon distanzia (maybe not this because too difficult to change)(no close bike shop)) i like the sound of tkc80 as many people say there easy to change, can handle light of roading and have good mileage. Worried about the long road work and heavy rain.

A TKC80 is a great tyre on the XTZ, but it will most definitely NOT give you good mileage!!

As i understand many people are exchanging their front sproket to 14 tooth to increase low gear power. After some research it is adviced elsewhere not to decrease the front sprocket as this increases ware to expensive parts but to increase th rear sprocet by two to four teeth. Is this advisable?

Going up by three teeth on the back will lower the final drive ration by the same as a 14T front and will save on sprocket wear too. However, you will need to buy a longer chain which cancels out any money saving.

Also with regards to the rectifier would it be safe to assume that if after 29000 km on the clock without trouble then i the part is not faulty?

Most (but not all) reg/rec issues were on 08 bikes. You may well be OK by now, but it is always worth checking the connector is seated correctly and use some dielectric grease to help seal it from the rain (especially in your climate!)

Finally is anyone making and selling any long lasting cush dives? It seems like a easy way to make a few quid for the right person.

I've thought about it and made some enquiries, but can't find a company in the UK who is prepared to do it (yet).

Don't worry so much, just ride the thing and enjoy it! ;)

Most of the changes you'll want/need to make will come naturally to mind as you cover the miles.

marques 04-05-13 12:44

Thank you for sharing your expertise and the links.
Is it possible to go wider on the front tire?

CaptMoto 04-05-13 13:26

Not recommended and not something that anyone here would undertake the responsibility to suggest in case you have unfortunate results. I wouldn't allow these ill advices on my watch.

marques 04-05-13 14:14

Forgive my ignorance. I guess its really dangerous. Thanks for nod.

Pleiades 04-05-13 14:34

AFAIK You can't get anything bigger than a 90/90 in a 21" size anyway.

marques 04-05-13 14:35

Pleiades thanks for the advice on the tkc80 you saved me some money. Unfortunately i cant afford two sets of tires at the moment. I was hoping i could draw from your knowledge as to a recommended tire

Pleiades 04-05-13 16:41

Heidenau K60 rear works well with a TKC front and gives nearly twice the mileage.

May I suggest you start a thread in the Tyres section...

marques 05-05-13 00:41

Thanks again for the advice,pleiades after reading about the k60 you were spot on. Exactly what i am looking for. BUT they dont seem to sell them here.

By the way, have you attached a higher fender, the stock one looks so lame.

Pleiades 05-05-13 01:00

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Originally Posted by marques (Post 187311)
By the way, have you attached a higher fender

Yep - check out this thread... http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=19894

marques 05-05-13 01:14

Nice job. Why couldn't yamaha do that. You don't by any chance know where i can pick up that part on the web. Long shot. I know.

marques 19-05-13 09:38

What a sin. Got her all dirty
 
Took her out in the mountains for the first time yesterday. Been loving riding her on the roads, strangely feels much better than my road bike. She came with new battlewings 501 and 502. Great road tyres again better than road bike. To be honest i am just in awe at the moment what an awesome bike it is.

Any way on the mountain tracks the tires were scary, Good on the uphills but i was sliding all over the place on the downhills for 20 k i was ****ting myself. Probably the bikes weight was the biggest problem and the state of track which was mainly rocks and boulders. But certainly tyres were not helping.
The bikes forks were great off road but scary on road. And the rear shock i felt was the opposite as it bottomed out once or twice on the boulders.
Again the gearing is way off target off road, but good enough for tarmac.

Cleaning today and still thinking my bike f***ing awesome.

Should i be greasing my bike external body work and bolts etc to stop it rusting. The guy i bought it off has kept it as new. Dont know how he did it though.

CaptMoto 19-05-13 13:37

Get some ACF50
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ACF-50-ANTI-C...MZw~~60_35.JPG

ACF-50 started as a corrosion treatment for aircraft and is used by the US Airforce and aircraft manufacturers around the world. As long as you keep it away from brakes and tyres the stuff gives miraculous results. You have to make sure the can is warm enough to spray correctly but after that just spray it everywhere to create a barrier against the road grime and salt.
After applying it, each subsequent bike wash is easier and less time-consuming

marques 19-05-13 14:05

Thanks for the advice on the anti rust spray. A tad on the pricey side. I guess you get what you pay for. What about lithium greese or silicon greese?

CaptMoto 19-05-13 15:13

Stick with the more expensive stuff, ACF50 will save you money in the long run

marques 19-05-13 15:32

Thanks then im persuaded.

marques 19-05-13 15:41

By the way, my 48 t rear sprocket came the other day. My current chain has a hell of a lot of slack and the rear axle is positioned right in the middle of the adjustment space. So do think ill be okay fitting the new sprocket with current chain? It looks like it ll be okay.

SimonRoma 14-01-14 09:31

Welcome to the best forum around!!! Have fun.


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