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xphase 08-01-13 08:02

Renthal Handlebar for Tenere
 
I would like to change my 22mm handlebar on my Tenere and consider Renthal 28.6 Fatbar.

But what shape should I have?? Rise, sweep, height etc?
Im about 190cm, and riding a lot in standing position and using 30mm risers. (30mm is on the verge of to what I need, probably 40mm would have been perfect!)

Should I go for a straight handlebar, or with a larger angle?

Its even harder to know what shape I want when I dont even now the shape of the Yamaha original handlebar! :) Is there any info about this somewhere?

Best regards
/Xphase

Petenz 08-01-13 09:26

Measure the Yamaha or bars with a shape you like &
select the closest shape from the list below...

http://www.renthal.com/File/product2...odel=&bikedate=



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Metzy 08-01-13 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by xphase (Post 182645)
I would like to change my 22mm handlebar on my Tenere and consider Renthal 28.6 Fatbar.

But what shape should I have?? Rise, sweep, height etc?
Im about 190cm, and riding a lot in standing position and using 30mm risers. (30mm is on the verge of to what I need, probably 40mm would have been perfect!)

Should I go for a straight handlebar, or with a larger angle?

Its even harder to know what shape I want when I dont even now the shape of the Yamaha original handlebar! :) Is there any info about this somewhere?

Best regards
/Xphase

It comes down to personal preference and liking the particular bend. I would never buy a set of bars without feeling them first. One thing to consider is that there is enough room to fit all the controls ie grip, master cylinder, switch block.

enduro374 08-01-13 09:29

Yesterday I bought some Renthal 613 bars which are the Enduro High bend - if this helps.

http://www.mandp.co.uk/netalogue/con...ium/572897.jpg
I am assured by uberthumper who uses these that the cables etc all work fine with the extra height.

phil ten 08-01-13 09:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by xphase (Post 182645)
I would like to change my 22mm handlebar on my Tenere and consider Renthal 28.6 Fatbar.

But what shape should I have?? Rise, sweep, height etc?
Im about 190cm, and riding a lot in standing position and using 30mm risers. (30mm is on the verge of to what I need, probably 40mm would have been perfect!)

/Xphase

I'm the same height as you and have used 30 and 40mm risers. I found the 40mm risers brill....when up on the pegs! when sitting down (on long journeys) the bars were too high. (thats with standard bars)

The beauty is though my risers are shim stacks so you can take a shim out and adjust the height....which i do, depending on what or where im riding.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 08-01-13 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by enduro374 (Post 182649)
I am assured by uberthumper who uses these that the cables etc all work fine with the extra height.

I have the same, and yes the cables reach fine.

However... you need to take off the tank and re-route the throttle cables over the oil pipe (they run under it), this gives you the extra 'length' at the bars.

Like this ->

http://www.smokingtailpipes.com/Gall...le_ReRoute.jpg

The red is the cables and where they currently run, the green is the oil pipe you need to route around, and the dotted blue line is the new route.

The 613's have a much more natural feel than the OE ones, and give a 25mm rise too, so no need for risers, but as has already been said, it's a personal thing (The Tiger is getting a 613 bar fitted when I can be bothered to figure out how it comes to bits... )

ramarvarna 08-01-13 23:28

I did it, see the picture:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1111224...68023125912978

I don't know which model Renthal is that, I have it form my Husqvarna. It's a different shape than the stock and give extra 20 or 30 mm high.
It's ok for me but I am 1.85. About the risers I had it before on my Husky but the problem is they bend easy if you fall.

xphase 09-01-13 09:08

Thanks for all replies!

But I want a fatbar handlebar, Renthal 613 is 7/8...

About angle, sweep etc. Could you tell me the difference it makes? Whats good/bad about it? Is it ONLY for personal liking?

Tell me your experience about it, what do you like with YOUR new handlebar. Whats your riding style? Offroad/touring, standing position etc?

Petenz 09-01-13 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by xphase (Post 182711)
Thanks for all replies!

But I want a fatbar handlebar, Renthal 613 is 7/8...

About angle, sweep etc. Could you tell me the difference it makes? Whats good/bad about it? Is it ONLY for personal liking?

Tell me your experience about it, what do you like with YOUR new handlebar. Whats your riding style? Offroad/touring, standing position etc?

I have just put these "Artracs?" fat bars on my XTR...
they have a 40mm sweep... I find them to straight..
I will be replaceing them with something around 55/57mm sweep..
could also be a bit higher as standing up for long periods is not good..
looking at the Renthal CR high which has a 57mm sweep...thesse bars may be ok
on my XR250 as you sit a bit closer the the bars..more compact..
http://imageshack.us/a/img829/39/ssa42012.jpg

xphase 09-01-13 12:05

Im thinking of the Renthal Fatbar RC no.604. What do you think about that? Its 802mm in width, 99mm in height and 54mm sweep.

My local dealer has a good price right now, about $120 (�75).

phil ten 09-01-13 13:43

Do renthal do some bars that are virtually the same as the standard ones?

i want the higer enduro bars but 25mm higher isnt enough rise for me so would need some small risers too...but then again the sweep can change the feel of the bars?

im always adjusting my bars / risers dependant on what im doing. EXAMPLE: if im touring i may roll them back just a touch and take a shim of of the risers.

Bars are a funny one. the only way is to try them....which takes time and money.

enduro374 09-01-13 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 182654)
(The Tiger is getting a 613 bar fitted when I can be bothered to figure out how it comes to bits... )

Thanks for the tip GULG.

I can help take the front off your Triumph - just bring it to the lakes!!

redbikejohn 09-01-13 22:08

i find the sweep on the OE bars to be way too much. if i sit and reach for the bars i find my hands are naturally straight (off the bars) but i have to angle my hands to fit the OE bars. no idea why someone would want to hold on like that? quite often i find my hands straight but only part of my hands touching the grips.

looked on rental website and the ktm sweep is one of the least so not surprisingly i think they are a lot more natural to me as i have a couple of ktms

wide 14-01-13 21:00

Ive always gone for 613s and find them awesome. Mind taking the tank off is a bit annoying isnt it !! How easy is it to get off. At the mo Im on standard bars with a 15mm riser but not loving the way they sweep back

enduro374 14-01-13 22:50

I have just fitted 613's to my Ten and they are superb.

Taking the tank off is easy:
Bars off first
Remove seat
Remove rear retaining plate
Remove screen, front indicator panels and tank side panels
Remove the two plastic parts the side panels screw to - important to get the tank to lift!!
Remove the two main tank mount bolts
Remove overflow pipe from left lower side
Lift rear of tank and pull back slightly
Unclip two electrical connectors (push tab in and pull apart)
Remove fuel connector security clip
Undo fuel pipe (push tab and pull apart
Prepare area to place tank with protection
Remove tank and place right way up on a flat surface.

You do need to re route the cables and check the throttle returns on both full locks.
Adjust cables free play as necessary.

Fitting is the reverse of removal as they say.

Piece of cake - done it loads of times.

Be sure to adjust throttle free play with the new bars on and in position before you put the tank back on as its fiddly with the tank on. Don't forget to slide the throttle Assy on before you clamp the bars!

Have fun.

redbikejohn 14-01-13 23:46

Eerrr - we never said it was difficult to take the tank off - its just a pain with all the bits and bobs, washers and odd and ends.........

If you don't think its a pain maybe you should try a 916. Two little plastic pins (might be one bolt I can't remember now) fuel pipew off and lift. Bodywork off in 30sec too.
ktm tanks? Three m6 bolts, pull pipe and lift.

Like I said I love my tenere but my god the jap design is crap. Tried dropping the shock? Doing the valves? Take off rad they say. Well if the pipes were half an inch longer you could clear the bottom bracket. Oh yes why weld a big bracket on the frame like that to support the rad? Ktm? Reg rec fixes with one small m6 bolt. Xt? One big bracket to frame, two m8 ? Bolts washers, spacers and a back bracket!!! Can't drop end can without taking off whole rear end..... I could go on and on. Like I said I love the bike BUT.....

Black Dog 14-01-13 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbikejohn (Post 182994)
Eerrr - we never said it was difficult to take the tank off

I think that bit was aimed at wide, not you :)

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 15-01-13 08:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil ten (Post 182722)
i want the higer enduro bars but 25mm higher isnt enough rise for me so would need some small risers too....

You are going to have to replace the throttle cables for this. adding 30mm is the very extreme of what the average throttle cables will cope with. The 613's are a tiny bit wider than the OE bars too, so by adding a riser kit you are going beyond what the OE cables will deal with. All the other cables are fine.
Venhill (I think ? Uber??) will replace the cables if you send them the assembly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wide (Post 182984)
How easy is it [tank] to get off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by enduro374 (Post 182991)
Taking the tank off is easy

And even the instructions to do it - Thanks Mark.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Dog (Post 182996)
I think that bit was aimed at wide, not you :)

Yes. I agree.

Like any job, if you don't know how to do it then it becomes difficult. When you've done it once or twice it's easy, straightforward and doesn't take long at all.

wide 15-01-13 08:42

Cheers for the how to guys. Didnt want to cause a row mind:023:. I think its no worse than my old Ten to be honest as the crash bars had to come off before all the fairing, before all the other gubbins. Ive just never had anything to do with FI and dont know what wizzardry goes on under there:087: scares me see:loser:

enduro374 15-01-13 09:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by wide (Post 182998)
Ive just never had anything to do with FI and dont know what wizzardry goes on under there:087: scares me see:loser:

Just two connectors and a high pressure connector, nothing to worry about nut more fiddly than a conventional old school fuel pipe connection..

phil ten 15-01-13 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbikejohn (Post 182994)
Like I said I love my tenere but my god the jap design is crap. .....

YEP!! tottally agree there fella!!

You would think that an adventure bike (like race bikes) should come apart easily. As when out on an adventure your likely to have to do work on it....if your "adventure'in" hard enough that is :) :)

redbikejohn 15-01-13 21:26

i like a moan ..... but in all fairness the total number of teneres that actually get used for 'adventure' is small in the greater scheme of things. its basically a 80's/90's design bike for the mass market. however i also think they could have made their 'worldcrosser' bike a tricked out 660 with yzf forks and wheels etc etc. they have all the bits in the spares bin but instead they put a few bits of bling on the 1200 slug (sorry to offend 1200 owners but i've ridden it several times and while its got a lovely engine i'd rather walk offroad than use one of those in the dirt).

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 16-01-13 10:10

OK , moaning is fine, but please don't hijack item specific threads to do it, especially when it's off topic.

Thank You.


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