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mash101 24-12-12 10:35

Side stand hits MTC link pipe....
 
So, my X has the new & improved link pipes very kindly supplied by MTC, following the issues of the newer X swingarm (see other thread...).
Anyway, I pulled up at the lights yesterday, & glanced down at the side stand: it was touching the link pipe when in the 'up' position. I got home, un-bolted everything & tried to reposition link pipe to stop this - no joy!!! I may be able to fashion some type of stop to fix to the stand, as the interference is only a couple of mm. I don't think its dangerous, but something will wear out sooner or later - anyone else had this issue??????

Grim Reaper 24-12-12 22:21

Not noticed this but I'll have a look first chance I get.

bigTrev 25-12-12 02:09

Yeah i have the same thing with mine, Keep meaning to take the sidestand off and put a couple of mm of weld on it where it hits the stop, just to keep it out.

mash101 25-12-12 18:39

Yo bigtrev: seems like a reasonable fix, but sadly I don't have a welder & can't weld anyway....
So - I was thinking of drilling the side stand bracket & fixing an adjustable stop made out of a piece of steel plate. Will keep you posted & do some photos.
Have MTC looked into this?
Merry Xmas to all - I have had rather a lot of a fine single malt her indoors bought me for a present, so apologies for the long post!!!!!!!!

bald_pig 27-12-12 13:51

the sidestand on my X is the same, it doesn't really bother me though, so i've left it.

mash101 27-12-12 17:46

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Originally Posted by bald_pig (Post 182185)
the sidestand on my X is the same, it doesn't really bother me though, so i've left it.

Unless I can figure a quick fix, I won't bother. I notice a small mark where the stand rubs - a bit of Autosol every now & then removes it.

bald_pig 28-12-12 01:20

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Originally Posted by mash101 (Post 182195)
Unless I can figure a quick fix, I won't bother. I notice a small mark where the stand rubs - a bit of Autosol every now & then removes it.

if you've seen my latest thread, i need to sort out my downpipes!

it might be possible to rotate the stand in the mounts a little, or to dremel out the mount a little to make it possible?

mash101 28-12-12 12:42

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Originally Posted by bald_pig (Post 182211)
if you've seen my latest thread, i need to sort out my downpipes!

it might be possible to rotate the stand in the mounts a little, or to dremel out the mount a little to make it possible?

Yeah - I had a look at this, but rotating the stand will cause the bike to lean over too much when parked. Also, the whole bracket assembly is a big chunk of steel, so bending it would probably need a lot of heat/work - easier to add a blob of weld or some sort of adjustable stop.....

martin_dk 12-01-13 16:54

I came across the exact same issue today when I started fitting my new MTC exhausts. I've sent a mail to MTC describing the issue, I'll get back when I hear from them.

bald_pig 12-01-13 17:17

I had a quick look at mine, it looks like it sits about 1mm away!

martin_dk 12-01-13 17:46

I cannot adjust my way out of this, even if I leave out the spacers supplied for the mounts it still touches the sidestand (and are now too close to the plastics). There's about 40mm clearance on the other side of the left linkpipe - so there's plenty of room for the linkpipe without it touching the sidestand or the rear arm.. But lets see what MTC replies, so far I've been very impressed by their support.

mash101 13-01-13 16:18

I guess when MTC redesigned the link pipes to accommodate the later type X swingarm, they missed a trick with the side stand issue. I suspect they tested the pipes on a brand new bike; if they'd used a bike that had done a few miles, I think the problem would have shown up. I'm thinking the stand sags a bit over time (????). I think MTC need to revisit the geometry, & perhaps suggest a means of adjustment to those of us with this (very minor) issue. I still think some form adjuster screw/stop could be fitted to the stand....

mistman 14-01-13 00:57

Recived my mtc's on thursday i will check the clearance on the x seen if it hits

martin_dk 14-01-13 08:30

Mine's an R, I don't know is there any difference in the link pipes between the two?

mash101 14-01-13 13:49

I think the pipes are the same for X & R, but the swingarms are different on each bike. I guess the rest of the frame & stand would also be identical on X & R, although the ride height is probably different due to different wheel sizes. So: is the stand a different length also??? All a bit confusing.....

martin_dk 15-01-13 20:20

I got an answer today from MTC. They say that they had the problem some months ago, but they reworked the link pipes and haven't had a problem since. Maybe I got some of the old ones eventhough I ordered in December - I dunno, I answered their question about my time of purchase, no reply yet.

mash101 16-01-13 13:48

Hmmm.... Mine are the newer type!!

martin_dk 16-01-13 15:17

Yeah, got another reply today. They said I might have gotten the old version by accident. But I should check if it was possible to loosen the little pipe joining the down pipes, and thereby adjusting my way out of this. I'll give it a try tomorrow night.

mash101 16-01-13 21:02

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Originally Posted by martin_dk (Post 183074)
Yeah, got another reply today. They said I might have gotten the old version by accident. But I should check if it was possible to loosen the little pipe joining the down pipes, and thereby adjusting my way out of this. I'll give it a try tomorrow night.

If you had the old version, I don't think you would have this problem. The old version was bigger diameter also. Adjusting the downpipes I think will have little effect: let us know how you get on!
See other thread on 'Clearance issues', particularly photos, to identify which pipes you have.....

Grim Reaper 17-01-13 14:54

I had a look yesterday as that was the first time I had been out to the garage this year.

The stand clears the link pipe by a few millimetres. Tbh I hadn't noticed this before as I was more concerned with the chain and swing arm clearance.

Not a problem for me at this time as there's no play in my side stand.

martin_dk 17-01-13 16:32

Hmm it would seem the old linkpipes had clearance issues also - but the other way around, too close to the bike. Looks like they over-compensated for that problem.

Anyway I had another look underneath the bike today and theres no way to adjust the downpipes as they're bolted to the frame (through a rubber-bushed plate for removing vibrations), see image below. I wrote another email with my findings to MTC.

http://oi49.tinypic.com/2n1e740.jpg

mash101 20-01-13 21:01

Yeah Martin, that's exactly the problem....
I don't think its a particularly big deal, but its not ideal using the exhaust system as a stop for the stand.


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