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Brilliant responses
Thanks for the replies, super helpful
I will take the time to read through them properly and compile a few more questions! Thanks |
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I'm talking of the r but I now have a z to compare it to. will up date you on your new questions when I get home |
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Guys, they are brilliant replies, I will look to place some of those as quotes in the long term test article.
A question for you all though, The question of carb vs fuel injection I would like to write about the XT660R as a serious RTW adventure bike contender, to do that, carbs and fuel injection sometimes comes up. What do you chaps think is better for a round the world trip, keeping in mind the XT... there is the balance between reliability, high altitude ability etc of fuel injection, and then being able to fix a carb at the side of the road... Do any of you have any experience with malfunctioning ECU's or opinions on that? how to counteract it, spares and what not, can you take a spare system with you? do you trust FI over carb for the long term travel? Thanks again for all your detailed replies, super helpful Andy |
Andy,
we are using the XTR (8 bikes) as tour bikes in Peru. (perumoto.com) Most of them got between 55000 - 90.000 km on the clock. So far, no ecu problems at all. We had to clean injectors a couple of times, due to dirty fuel in the villages of the Andes. (Mine is currently at 94.000 km - never cleaned it.) Any watchmaker can do it in an ultrasonic bath, they use to clean watches. On the other hand, a friend is riding his Tenere (2009 model) for about 70.000 km now (RTW trip, South America, Australia and at the moment Asia) without any problem regarding the FI system. From my point of view: Forget about carbs! No hustle at altitudes up to over 5000 mtr. salu2, Joe |
thoughts on the XT660R
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I've had an XT660R for a couple of years now and I love it. I hired it in Honduras, after my Triumph Tiger was stolen on a Pan-American highway expedition. I liked it so much that I bought it at the end of the trip. I've since done abour 7,000 miles around the UK and have just completed a 6,000 mile round trip from Scotland to the Sahara. It has plenty of power (at the expense of top speed) and can keep up with larger bikes most of the time. I haven't had any problems, apart from minor surging which has been fixed with a Kev fuel mod. The bike has Metal Mule panniers and exhaust and Touratech pegs, bashplate and handguards. I've also fitted heated grips. topbox and an aux fuse box for GPS etc. With the right tyres (currently Avon Distanzias) it can go anywhere. It's particulary good on piste. No problems with vibration - my Tiger was worse. My only gripe is that the fuel tank could be bigger. It's a keeper! Scott. |
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I am quite interested in what everyone thinks of the fuel injection... the low end surging, how you fixed it, for example the difference between a Kev mod and a power commander, the different options available, or do some of you not notice it?
I did have a slight bit of surging at the start but i was taught how to ride on a single cylinder bike so i found it no different covering and slipping the clutch at low revs or in and around traffic. I finally after a few years bought a stg 2 air filter and kev fuel mod and this combo gives loads of torque down low, a bit more top end but overall alot better fuelling allowing for less clutch slip and surging. In the end of the day it is a bit single and with a long swing arm it just feels like youve a slack chain when it surges. Also what about vibrations etc.. I didnt have much problem with vibration all the way up till around 40k miles. Got the engine serviced again in and around this milage and the mechanic said of the main bearing must be loosening off. At 70mph (with a 1 tooth higher front sprocket) it was ok, no more vibration than any other bike, over this the vibrations started. I think this was down to a worn engine and if i had the money and time at the time i probably would have stripped the engine, replaced parts and rebuilt it. Maxwell: I am assuming your talking about a Z model then not the R? I owned an R for 4 years, but have only just bought a Z so i compare them together. The R for me would probably have been the better off roading bike (although i havent tested the Z fully yet) but the R being lighter makes alot of difference. Ok the fuel tank is smaller so you may want to carry a 5 ltr drum + with you if your doing long distance riding, however both bikes give good MPG. Below are a selection of my pictures showing near 4 years of ownership of an XTR. |
My pride and joy of near 4 yrs
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...5/DSCF1706.jpg Heading for the stranrear boat via the more back roads http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...5/SDC11808.jpg Getting ready for some dirt in the peak district http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...5/P5050061.jpg and playing in the mud!!!! http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...5/P5050079.jpg XTR out in front as usual http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...5/P5060101.jpg Slight lose of traction!!! http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...5/PIC_0387.jpg |
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Max there are a few things that cause these bikes to surge, I am not sure if you have read but I have a almost 100% fix for 2007> models onwards for surging with my new 2012 O2 controller. 1/ There are 5 different levels of ECU's, each ECU has a different setting to reduce the surging for the fuel injection side of things. 2004 to 2006 you can add a fueling device which will help depending on the ECU firmware. http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=8546 2/ From 2007> you need to control the O2 sensor closed loop fueling, as well as the open loop fueling, if you don't control the closed loop you will never control the surging. http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=14746&page=22 3/ Rear sprocket dampening rubbers, there should be virtually no free play in the rubbers if there is the bike will ride with a drive line shunt which feels like a surge. 4/ Chain & sprocket conditions, tight spots, streached or incorrectly adjusted chains can make the bike surge. 5/ Carry out my twist grip mod, this will allow for better throttle control at low speed & small throttle openings. |
kev I'm sorted I've now got an xtz
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