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Sidecar for Tenere?
Right now I'm at the beginning of the removable sidecar for my 10.
Hope it will be finished before Christmas. The goal of it is going for Elephant Treffen 2013 ) http://www.alteselefantentreffen.com/ |
Will look forward to updates and pictures.
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Helgi, I assume you're going for something like this...
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...9CJyJQ1jFNe9Vg Rather than like this... http://www.watsonian-squire.com/images/Guzzi-web.jpg Although I rather like this... http://www.mcnews.com.au/ClassicsCus.../Sidecar11.jpg ...would suit the Ten very well. What you got in mind? |
OMG!! Awesome! Are you going to put the missus in it???
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I also shall be watching with interest. I have mulled it over briefly before and thought about making a subframe as the best method of attaching the chair. How are you doing it?
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Right now we're trying to calculate stress points. Sadly enough, Ten do not have full frame, so it could be impossible to create rigid subframe without danger to damage original part of the frame (especially front one) cause of sidecar movements.
Will post a result of our checks later... |
This video shows an outfit made to fit an XT660R which seems to work pretty well (he's even converted to Earles forks!)
Wish I could understand more German though! |
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First he explained that there are 3 interchangeable wheels, they use wheels from a Smart (you know, this small so called "car") Then they talked about the changing from a normal boat to an Enduro boat as shown in the video (and make some jokes, that you are allowed to use more of these Alu-boxes, up to a high of 4 meter) The third guy is a customer and give some comments concerning the hack, he likes it. Cia� Solitario PS: This is the website, only in German http://www.gespanntechnik-schmid.de/ |
This should be an interesting project,Mad max:nos: styling or endurance.:southpark:
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Heres the sub frame I built for my XTR...
The bike will still be able to lean... You will notice the front mount is higher than the rear so as the bike leans the car will steer into the corner as the front mount being higher has a longer arc radius..pushing/pulling the front of the car more than the rear.. a leaner dosn't require a reduce trail front end (leading link) like a fixed car I built a leanner cargo unit for my XR250 it worked so well hardly knew the car was there most of the time.. a good thing with a leaner there is only 3 bolts to remove it... 2 main pivits & lean limiter strut.. 15 mins to remove the XR unit.. http://imageshack.us/a/img825/6198/ssa41866.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img21/3295/ssa41865t.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img832/8082/ssa41864g.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img171/2055/ssa41863.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img214/7877/ssa41889.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img256/9101/ssa41888.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img825/6198/ssa41866.jpg Heres my XR250 unit.. The ADV XR build thread http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716993 http://imageshack.us/a/img444/6685/ssa41774.jpg |
Wow Petenz! Thats what I was looking for! Thanks and will post images of my project soon I hope )
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Anhyone remember the 'Sidewinder' bouncy side car creation from the 80's that was a way around folks using their previous learner friendly 250's + when the new 125cc law came in?
The whole thing hinged and weighed not much, so you could ride with lean angles too - but not too much. No doubt pictures etc on the WWW somewhere and may add inspiration to the mounting/sub frame issues.. Good luck. |
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http://www.google.co.nz/url?q=http:/...eauD3qdQemyHLg |
No like this -
http://www.essexbikers.co.uk/forum/s...198#post367198 very much a tea tray on a wheel :)
Great design Petenz, why did you go or a leaner over fixed? |
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1..... easy to remove/install,, 15/20 mins.. 2..... no leading link front end required,, makes No1 possable.... 3...... car can be very light... 4...... less stress on the bike... 5...... car has very little efect on the bike over bumps ,, rideing standing over rough ground is still as with out the car..... 6...... still lean on the seal... less rider weight shift & turning the bars to corner... 7...... steering dosn't become heavy,,, again no leading link required... BUT as with any side car you can get into trouble very quickly if you push the riggs limits... more so than on 2 wheels... PS... do they slide well on gravel roads... YES ,, Yes they do... |
well, after a year, project almost finished)))
take a look a bit) https://drive.google.com/uc?export=d...mgtZlROZjd5bEE |
Outfits are the work of Satan - and I say that advisedly as one (a right-hand chair Ural) tried to take my soul on the M25/M23 interchange!
Incidentally, you can do the Elefant on a solo - I've done it on a Guzzi (which broke down), a K75, a GT750 and a rat Triumph Tiger. http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/imag...fantBMWk75.jpg http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/elefanttent.jpg http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/mordor.jpg We're off to a rally near Chemnitz next year (10/01/15) as the Elefant annoys me - loads of biker lifestyle types rock up in vans and use scooters to drag sleds down to the campsite with loads of gear. Very few people seem to ride their bikes all the way there - basically only the British and Italians do so and carry all their gear on the bike. There's plenty of drinking and stupidity which is a very good thing! Although, it can be very grim if it rains. Mordor (the lower campsite) is always worth a visit. You'll need to have a petrol stove (it gets too cold for gas), alloy poles in the tent (fibreglass shatter) - a thermarest and ex-army cold weather sleeping bag will do the job. |
A clean up & paint...... it will look good...
Is the steering heavy with the car on... how much lead is on the car wheel ? Should be no more than 15% of the bikes wheel base... |
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Just when you think you've seen it all !!!
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