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Gas_Up_Lets_Go 03-10-12 10:58

'New' DL1000 Strom.......
 
Have a look -> http://suzukibulletin.co.uk/2012/10/...d-at-intermot/


So, it's a new model, but I can see many features that are evident in others bikes....

I really don't like those sticky out rear hangers,, I don't like them on my Tiger and the Strom ones look like they've come from the same supplier.... Just like the Versys headlight....

And the whole 'beak with shoulders onto the tank' thing... that's never been done before. Oh sorry, yes it has!

OK so I'm not a fan of this concept bike, it's got no originality, no independent style. But it might just be a very good bike.

What do you think ?

Woottonboy 03-10-12 11:50

Well it doesn't appear
 
To have the oil filter shoved at the front sticking out like a donkey's appendage so it can't be too bad....

I would love to see how many Vstrom owner's globally have taken out the oil filter on rocks and sticks. I know of at least one person that it has happened to. And they weren't happy. Not at all. In fact you could say they were unhappy.

uberthumper 03-10-12 12:27

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Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 179622)
And the whole 'beak with shoulders onto the tank' thing... that's never been done before. Oh sorry, yes it has!

Although Suzuki can probably claim to be the originators of that look.

http://suzukibulletin.co.uk/wp/wp-co..._1-350x267.jpg

http://www.shearwatermotorcycles.com...20Dr%20Big.JPG

Uncanny.

As for the actual bike, I'm sure it will be a perfectly competent luxo-barge, and almost certainly better value than the BMUU. Can't work myself up to actually being interested in that sort of bike though... maybe I'm not old enough :D

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 03-10-12 13:02

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Originally Posted by uberthumper (Post 179629)
Although Suzuki can probably claim to be the originators of that look.

Agreed.

Loopydog 03-10-12 14:56

Oh ****! As an owner of a DL1000 V Strom for the last 7 years - my favourite bike of all time - who has been crying out for the last 5 years for Suzuki to update it ..... I'll find it very tempting. If it's better than the current model then I'll be well pleased. I like the looks, don't care in the least if it's been done before, by them or anyone else, and the issue re taking out projecting oil filters will never be an issue for 95% of riders (it clearly is road focused).
As luck would have it ..... I'm at the Intermot tomorrow and Friday, so should be able to get a good look and, hopefully, a sit on it. Bikes are often different 'in the flesh'.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 03-10-12 15:11

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Originally Posted by Loopydog (Post 179633)
As luck would have it ..... I'm at the Intermot tomorrow and Friday, so should be able to get a good look and, hopefully, a sit on it. Bikes are often different 'in the flesh'.


Ah, so some proper pictures then,,,, and a real appraisal of the bike.

I don't have a problem with a bikes short-comings, as much as where manufacturers try to sell the whole 'world traveller' concept on a bike that really isn't up to the job (someone said to me "these Tigers [XC 800], are brilliant off-road", and they just aren't. I wouldn't take mine anywhere near the stuff the Tenere has been. )

You can still love a bike, but accept it's problem areas (I ride a Tenere for gods sake!)

uberthumper 03-10-12 15:21

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Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 179630)
Agreed.

Of course if I'd actually bothered reading the article rather than just looking at the picture, I'd have seen the bit that says

Quote:

Inspired by the legendary DR Big Dakar racer

Loopydog 03-10-12 15:37

GULGo - ''sell the whole 'world traveller' concept''. Thanks for that, I'd very much like to read that Suzuki promo piece. Where did you find it? Can you put the link up. Many thanks.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 03-10-12 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loopydog (Post 179636)
GULGo - ''sell the whole 'world traveller' concept''. Thanks for that, I'd very much like to read that Suzuki promo piece. Where did you find it? Can you put the link up. Many thanks.

nope.

I was generalising, hence
Quote:

manufacturers

Loopydog 03-10-12 15:47

No worries. I can do that too, as in 'bikes'

gregdobrynin 03-10-12 16:07

Probably you have already seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDSv6FisubQ


I am really wandering about that oil cooler though, cuz in DL650 they managed to merge it with water cooler.

CaptMoto 03-10-12 16:13

Cool, looks a bit mad!

RickM 03-10-12 20:15

Looks interesting, but:............
 
......when, for christs sake, will we see a new fuel injected DR Big? It doesn't even have to be 800cc given Motori Minarelli's success with its 660cc engine.

It is kinda of cool though for Suzuki to give a reminder of where the look comes from (as many of us have been saying for sometime ;-) )

uberthumper 03-10-12 22:40

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Originally Posted by RickM (Post 179650)
......when, for christs sake, will we see a new fuel injected DR Big? It doesn't even have to be 800cc given Motori Minarelli's success with its 660cc engine.

Never. It was a product of two things, the Dakar rally and corporate ****-waving - Suzuki wanting to be able to say they had built the biggest single cylinder motorcycle engine.

The open-class bikes are gone from the Dakar (although in the final year KTM got back up to about 730cc), and I don't think Suzuki have got the cash any more to build something just for fun.

Pleiades 03-10-12 23:25

The talk of oil cooler position, footpeg design, rocks and trails maybe slightly missing the point? I reckon Suzuki are probably being quite astute, like Kawasaki with the Versys 1000, in building a road based parts bin special to cheaply cash in on the adventure bike market with minimal R&D outlay/risk. Note they use the term "adventure style" bike, not adventure bike, they know and accept it'll never be used off road and, knowing Suzuki it will be cheap. (Unlike Yamaha and Triumph who have invested heavily in developing the S10 and Explorer, given them very high price tags, and yet will never recoup their investment.) It still beggers belief why Yamaha didn't go down this route and cheaply re-hash the TDM, give it some personality and turn it into an "adventure style" bike?

Loopydog 03-10-12 23:51

Now that's talking sense. I'll put money on you being right and Suzuki undercutting the opposition prices quite significntly. I'm a case in point, love my current DL1000, will probably buy it's 'replacement' if it looks 'adventure' and is cheaper than the others.

RickM 04-10-12 01:44

I never really liked the look of the V-Stroms but this certainly looks better. Would look even better with spoked wheels. I gather though that the current mpg is not as good as the Super Ten.
Now that most manufacturers have a heavyweight offering it would be nice to have a better choice in the more affordable middleweight class. Something that didn't have a detuned (but still high revving) sports bike engine, had no more than two cylinders, with wire spoke wheels........hmmm....like Africa Twin, original Super Tenere, DR750/800.

Loopydog 05-10-12 21:05

Well, I went, I looked, I saw ...... but it was in a glass case! so no sitting on it or pouring over it. Looks lower and narrower than the current model. If you squint, it looks a bit like the GS, especially with that two-tone seat. Suzuki guys couldn't tell me much, other than .... it will not be on sale until at least next Autumn, will be lower, lighter, more powerful than the current DL1000 and will be competetively priced against the other big 'adventure tourin' bikes.
Incidentally, sat on and climbed all over the new KTM1190Adv (take note Suzuki). I think the KTM hard-core will be disappointed - it's like all the others, much more road-tour oriented.
Had a test ride on the Triumph 800 and new 1200. Former was awful, latter was quite nice - very smooth - but lower and less ergonomically comfortable than the 660Ten (for me).
All-in-all, well pleased that I'm getting my 660Ten (on Wednesday). sat on loads of bikes at the show and - with the exception of the other 660's (which I'd never sat on before) and the KTM990SM, all were uncomfortable for me, in relative terms. Quite liked the Husqvarna Terra 650 mind. Husky guy said it's more powerful and lighter than the Ten.


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