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Max Torque Cans 28-08-12 10:23

MTC Exhausts
 
Hi
Thought I'd wade in with our side of this situation. Just over a year ago we purchased our own pipe bender so we could make all our own link pipes and save ourselves a lot of problems.
The machine came with the 2" tooling as that is what 98% of our link pipes are made with however we needed smaller tooling to make the XT pipes and as it was winter time and the tooling cost a few thousand to buy, this would have to wait till the spring.
We borrowed an XT660R from our local yamaha dealer and made a set of link pipes that fitted the bike perfectly. They weren't pretty as they were made up from random pieces of pipe welded together but they were perfect to make a jig around.
We sent the link pipes away to one of our suppliers who had the right size tooling in and asked them to make a jig and supply us with 100 sets of link pipes which they happily obliged.
After we recieved the link pipes back we began to use them for orders which all seemed to be followed by positive feedback, it is only over the past fortnight that we have recieved two complaints of these not fitting the bike. Judging by the photos we were sent we tried to make a quick fix to keep the customers happy and for one of the customers this worked perfectly but for the other there was still a problem.
Since hearing of the problem we have borrowed another bike from our local dealers and we intend to go through every set of link pipes we have in stock to hopefully solve the problem, and if the problem cannot be solved we will cut our losses and scrap the link pipes that were supplied to us and make our own sets.
Rest assured the matter is in hand and we will have this solved as quickly as possible. We have requested our sample link pipes back to find out what went wrong and once this is sorted we will happily exchange any faulty link pipes you may have for new ones.

Regards
Paul
MTC

Pleiades 28-08-12 12:23

My appologies for butting in on this one...

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Originally Posted by MTC (Post 178074)
We borrowed an XT660R from our local yamaha dealer and made a set of link pipes that fitted the bike perfectly.

Maybe that's the problem? Aren't the clearance issues related to the XTX, and from what I can tell, those with the cast alloy swingarm? Just a minor observation...

Grim Reaper 28-08-12 13:09

Thanks for the reply. I thought I would include the link to this post in my email to give you a better idea of the circumstances.

Petenz 28-08-12 15:13

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mash101 28-08-12 17:27

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Originally Posted by Petenz (Post 178096)

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I think that comment is a little strong to say the least......
MTC appear to be a small outfit selling an otherwise decent product at a good price. Not only that, Paul at MTC has personally posted on this forum to try to resolve the issue & stand by his product. Can you imagine the boss of Micro$oft doing similar for the multiple bugs in Window$??
I would ask Paul at MTC to exchange my link pipes, should a general geometry problem be found (which seems likely), as they are too close to the chain/swingarm for comfort.....

Mort 28-08-12 18:51

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Grim Reaper 28-08-12 19:09

I'd just like to say that I did not start this thread to publicly critisise MTC, I was merely posting on the forum to highlight my problem and looking for advice in case any member had a similar issue or I was doing something wrong when fitting.
I did contact MTC by email and they were good enough to send out replacement link pipes which they had attempted to alter to assist with clearance. Unfortunately as you know these did not solve the issue.
The one thing I would have preferred was if they had told me after my initial contact that it wasn't in fact themselves who had made the link pipes which would have made it more understandable as to why they did not fit.
However as a company I can say that they replied quickly to my emails and attempted to resolve the issue.
I hope this incident does not spoil the relationship between MTC and XT660.com as other members have dealt with them in the past without any problems.

mash101 28-08-12 19:20

+1 to Grim Reaper.

Call me old fashioned, but using foul language & generally slagging off a company does not resolve anything. I, like millions of others, work in small business, & the vast majority of us have the best intentions.

waynovetten 28-08-12 20:39

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Originally Posted by mash101 (Post 178108)
+1 to Grim Reaper.

Call me old fashioned, but using foul language & generally slagging off a company does not resolve anything. I, like millions of others, work in small business, & the vast majority of us have the best intentions.


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mash101 28-08-12 21:44

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Originally Posted by waynovetten (Post 178112)
Call me old fashioned but when you pay for a product you expect it to right,if it isn't then you expect them to correct it,now I suggest you go have another look at the second set of pipes they sent you,with a piece cut out rewelded and chromed,clearly they have a 3 year old working for them to produce a bodge like that they are an absolute disgrace,it's insulting to even send them.

I've seen in many firms signs on the wall 'Producing crap is one thing sending it out is another'

Now were it all gets really complicated!!!! is the fact the company has links with the website,which frankly is no excuse at all for either party,Petenz may be blunt if not rather factual!!!

Any saving grace from this I've been there done that with two exhaust manafacturers neither did their homework,the first one I got roped in like you and did their R+D for e'm,the second I just asked for my money and said See ya.

Errr.... Its not actually my exhaust, its Grim Reaper's.....

And enough of the mud slinging - I think Grim Reaper wants a decent set of pipes for about half the cost of Akras - just like the rest of us. If MTC sort it out, surely that's a result?


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