Just had a look at these, they look the dogs danglies.

get the info here -> http://www.enduristan.com/en/products/monsoon.html

or buy them here -> http://www.zenoverland.com/soft_pann...n_monsoon.html


Good post.

It's a bit hard to see, but I'm thinking any slipon would melt them, though
http://www.enduristan.com/en/product...html#yamxt660z

For those of you looking at the Wolfman Expedition dry saddlebags - where can you buy the racks for the ten?

I have looked at the Enduristan Monsoons but felt they were too wide.

The Wolfman expidition dry can be installed on any rack where the distance between top and bottom bars of the rack are no more than (if I remember correctly) 9in apart. I am not sure they have a dedicated rack for the XTZ yet.

I actually think the Yamaha stuff is alright, but then mine was kinda free to me (came with the bike).

Would I actually go out and pay RRP for it? Possibly for the top box - I've had a lot of use out of mine, it only gets taken off if I'm going trail riding - but probably not for the panniers.

TBH I'm trying to get away from actually needing panniers. I never use them if I'm just away for the weekend, but once or twice a year they're really useful - two weeks away with Mrs Uberthumper and her not-very-luggageable bike, or going to the beach and being able to lock two people's complete riding gear away.

Here's my 2c worth: My OE panniers are fine for softer work, eg dirt roads and mild trail not loaded too heavily, but for anything really serious I would buy one of the many excellent soft luggage options. Be good to have both. I like the Yamaha stuff for everyday use as it's very convenient to use. Like others have said, it's maybe a little small and the locks are dirt-unfriendly, but with some patience it all seems to work out.

Thanks for all the opinions guys,
I'm planning a cross Africa trip in 2015. I often see OE topboxes for sale on ebay, is it worth forking GBP100 out for a OE topbox? I've read mixed reviews here and I'm not sure if it will survive the hard overlanding?

check these out , half the price of everywhere else http://konvoi.ro/

waiting for my delivery of ortleib motorcycle panniers they say 100% waterproof. should have had them on friday that would of tested them

The OE topbox is OK, not brilliant nor rubbish. It does need a sympathetic rider though. They are susceptible to sand and grit and the locking mechanism is a little temperamental.

I would say no, don't get one for an overland, especially Africa. I would keep an eye on ebay and look for an old Zega box, they come up now and then and are pretty bulletproof. I would fix the top box with nuts and bolts and put a drain hole in it, then use a waterproof inner bag that you can carry around.

Soft bags all the way for me... When yer get to where yer going
just lift them off... If yer fall off , untie them..lift the bike & put them back on.. if yer don't need them they are not there...And lighter than any hard system.