I'm getting the feeling the general consensus is more more more more!!

Yes, more waypoints, yes bigger area (further west and east) and im definatly in agreement with the handout of roadbooks the night before.

Would it help people to plan if we could provide large scale maps to view and plan your route against before entering it into your gps? (these would obviously due to cost not be available to take away)

Thursday evening meet sounds good to me with a full day of trails on the friday ( a led event ) then the navxt on the saturday and possibly the sunday too then home monday??????????

Agreed, name badges are a little 'corporate bonding session' aren't they. When a friend of mine organised 'The Longest Day', a charity ride taking in the four capitals of UK & Ireland in one day (he also did the first one � John O' Groats to Landsend in one day) all participants got a number and Dakar Rally Style sticker (I think they inc. names and numbers on 'em). Would this be do-able? You know how we all lurrrve stickers?

.... oh, and back on topic somewhat, I loved the format and wouldn't want you to change anything. On a personal level I would stick on some knobblies, go offroad, get there earlier and have more water-proof stuff. I'd probably let Doug pick my raffle tickets too!

Where'd I ride? Have no idea but I know I saw some awesome scenery whilst riding some brilliant roads!

Buy them yourself? I spent a grand total of ~�13 on the two map sheets that were covered by the NavXT. That was buying them from real shops due to my inability to plan ahead - I bought OS89 on the day from a petrol station in Keswick because I couldn't find a copy in Derby the weekend before - so I'm sure you could find them even cheaper online.

Then you've got them to bring back next year.

And yes, proper maps do help :D

Regarding when the roadbooks are dished out, I'm in two minds. On the one hand, deciding when to stop planning and start riding is a big part of the tactics for scatter rallies, but on the other hand it would be nice to be able to retire to the pub and sit at a proper table, rather than trying to mark the map up on my top box under a tarp in driving rain :D. At the minute I'd say leave it as is.

I agree! Half the fun is the tight planning and the need to get going and (in my case) having to wing it.. Too much planning is not going to help and will certainly get in the way of more beer - Not Good!

Surely the planning/plotting (not using sat nav) is one of the key skills, and doing it the night before would take away the essence of the event.

It should be done within the "timing" of the event.

An alternative method of NavXT would be to have a set route, with departures every 2 minutes for instance, using a road book with stick diagram for tricky junctions .....sat navs not allowed.

or Herringbones..
or Tulips....

That would make the event more " navigational", but probably alot more work for GULG.

Another (great?) idea would be to have a couple of Special Tests along the route, i.e. in say one of the car parks we went to, (or at the campsite) ride into a box and stay there for ten seconds without putting your feet down. etc.
or almost a full lock circle- without dabbing...

You aint kidding! It took 14 days to produce what you got. I can honestly say, providing directions isn't going to happen.

The whole purpose of this event, isn't to race, neither is it a time trial, it's whole purpose is to get people riding nice roads. The markers were placed to do just that. A secondary objective was to develop the skills in navigation, so people can take a map, or a GPS (and you have to start with a Map to plot a route) and find a nice ride, rather than using GPS's to go from A to B. This isn't a cut down version of the HUMM, it has a different focus and objective. One thing that sets this aside from the HUMM is the open mapping, if people have GPS's then this will help them get more out of them. This is a real world event, based on what people have an use.

Now, as a demo during BikeSafe (up here anyway) we do a neat little trick of riding a perfect cirlce between two curbs. So you finish where you start. Sounds easy :drillsergeant:

I'm quite liking this as an idea. Maybe have a special 'test' setup for a fixed time frame, say 1 hour at a given time? to aquire some bonus points. Of course, to make it fair (and not to discourage anyone) we'de have to make these secret tests, but advertise the value...

Of course these could be based on stuff in the Module 1 Test, which (as qualified riders) we can all do anyway :Gangsta2_9BI664:

I feel some ideas brewing.......