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Gas_Up_Lets_Go 11-11-10 17:24

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Originally Posted by enduro374 (Post 142790)
I opted for the X Racing single pipe,

I don't suppose you'll be coming to the Lakes in May ? I've been wanting to see this pipe, and hear it! for some time. X Racing don't seam to be able to answer questions and I don't know if they have crap Customer Service, or they don't speak/type English well enough to understand me.

What I like about these pipes is you can order the empty can to make up a 'tool-tube' type setup to balance the rear of the bike out a little.

I guess I just want to have a right good poke about at the can and listen to how loud it really is....

enduro374 11-11-10 17:41

Yes - I am definitely there (barring any nasties I'm not expecting). The dates are in my 2011 diary along with another three day jolly down in Southern Spain with Trailblazers.


Poor old bike Ten' sits outside under a cover while a bit of car work has taken over the garage...

enduro374 11-11-10 17:46

Don't forget the baffle can be cut to length, left long or removed completely!

maxwell123455 11-11-10 23:58

I can remember reading something kev had written and its all about gas flow out, back pressure in the system and noise.

The OE can is restrictive as it has alot of baffling, plates etc in it, this reduces the noise but creates alot of back pressuring meaning the engine can push out the gas or gas flow as much.

Therefore performance cans basically remove all the baffling and put the silencing material to the outer of the can, but its still noiser over an OE, but it has less back pressure, therefore more gas flow.

However, say your using 2 cans, this means you have two outlets for your gas flow, meaning more gas can effectively be pushed it (not just simply 2 times but roughly ball parking there), this is all great and fine at high rpm when getting the gas out of the engine is really what your looking to do. But when you get to lower rpm the gas that comes from the engine going into an exhaust tube which has a smaller back pressure as 2 exhuasts reduces the amount of pressure that can be retained in the exhaust tubes. This means it slightly reduces the pressure in the cylinder for the next stroke not allowing opptimum pressure to be kept.

For a single can, as it only has one outlet less gas can flow through it meaning at higher RPM the bike isnt going to be able to make as much power as a twin can system, but it does however mean that more back pressure is retained in the system at lower revs allowing more torque to be produced.

So really 2 cans means better power in the upper range and bit less torque down low, were as 1 can gives better torque down low but no real up top power gains.

JMo 12-11-10 12:00

If Adventure Spec made exhaust pipes...
 
Tom has said everything I would have said (even the magazines say the Tenere has twin exhausts when it is clearly a single box, with twin outlets - duh!) - and that the fundamental reason that the aftermarket go with twin pipes is for appearance...

You can see a 'regular' exhaust company like Leo Vince and Akrapovic doing that, but what I don't understand is why the independents don't make a single can (on the left side) and a dummy can on the right that can be used for tools or other storage - particularly as the Tenere has no underseat stowage to speak of?

If anyone has seen Race to Dakar, you'll see they used the 'dummy' offside can on the F650s as a storage container for a water bladder - neat idea.

It wouldn't cost any more to make the dummy can a container, in fact it would be cheaper as there would be no baffle gubbins to go inside - just a locking end cap perhaps?

But what the hell do I know huh?

J x

ps. Uberthumper - if you are serious about an SVX style undertray exhaust, speak to Andy Ainsworth at Zorstec - we discussed the very same idea for my Tenere prior to Heroes-Legend last year, although as you are probably aware, I ended up going for the SR Racing can for convenience and light weight...

uberthumper 12-11-10 12:18

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Originally Posted by JMo (Post 142831)
ps. Uberthumper - if you are serious about an SVX style undertray exhaust, speak to Andy Ainsworth at Zorstec - we discussed the very same idea for my Tenere prior to Heroes-Legend last year, although as you are probably aware, I ended up going for the SR Racing can for convenience and light weight...

I'm pretty sure it was your H-L thread that planted the idea in my head :D

Edit: Oh and I'm not that serious. Or rather I am, but I can think of lots of things further up the priority list for the Ten'.

tripletom 12-11-10 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMo (Post 142831)
ps. Uberthumper - if you are serious about an SVX style undertray exhaust, speak to Andy Ainsworth at Zorstec - we discussed the very same idea for my Tenere prior to Heroes-Legend last year, although as you are probably aware, I ended up going for the SR Racing can for convenience and light weight...

Hey JMo, UT and I have been speaking on PM as well, and I mentioned the CBR style silencer we had spoken about. He and I have some ideas. My warranty is up in Dec so then I can be a little bit more free with what happens to the Ten.

Max Torque Cans 18-11-10 09:52

MTC Exhausts Tenere single can option?
 
Due to the very popular demand from what we are reading we will look at putting a single can version in to production. The boss is very happy with this idea as he's always a fan of a single can as its less weight and most of the time you get more power. All we need now is a bit of feedback, are we thinking left hand can or right hand can? martin said if we get enough interest in this then we will put it in to production straight away. I'm looking forward to hearing from you all very soon.

Regards
paul
MTC Exhausts

JMo 18-11-10 10:02

Hi Paul -

I'd keep the single can on the left hand side of the bike (makes the most sense and has the straightest run for the link pipe), and offer a second dummy can for the right hand side, for tool/spares/water bladder storage.

I think you'd have a winning combo there for the majority of Adventure riders?

Jenny xx

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 18-11-10 10:51

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Originally Posted by JMo (Post 143148)
I think you'd have a winning combo there for the majority of Adventure riders?

I agree.

While not everyone would take the option of a tool tube type setup for the right, the option of an 'empty' can is very appealing as the Tenere lacks any sort of storage short of putting bags/boxes on.

It doesn't even need to be a manufactured part, the can case and some blank ends would be enough for most people to produce a storage system.

As for right or left, doesn't really matter to me. I do think it would be more cost effective to have it on the right and you can use the same link pipe specs, so keeping development costs in check.


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