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Pleiades 17-11-10 22:16

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Originally Posted by enduro374 (Post 143126)
Never mind two little ones - how about this as a lighting solution?

Just don't ride around Heathrow with it on full beam!

...and that set up is still 30W less power consumption than a pair of normal halogen spots! However, it would cost you a massive 720 quid!!

Lloyd Gore 14-11-15 15:39

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Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 142285)
Legal? Well, erm yes if use in conjunction with main beam at night and not when there is oncoming traffic, but no if you use them in the day or with dip at night. Generally it is not the lights that are legal/illegal, but more when/how they are used.

Switching: I have them wired into a separate switch on the left bar, so can be flicked on easily, but then they could just as easily be triggered from the main beam switch alone (see pic).

Like you, I drive on country lanes where there is little or no traffic so use main beam a lot, so additional low wattage lights are really very handy.

I did consider wiring the dip bulb to stay on with the main, but that's 110W/9A. Quite often I complete a whole journey just on main at night, with heated grips etc this would have been marginal on the alternator output. If I lived in town I would go for this option though and save the dosh spent on the spots, as you'd use main beam for much briefer periods.

How did you wire the switch in with the lights?
I'm currently looking at the kit on adventure spec and I see they sell a wiring harness for �40 plus the switch isn't even waterproof. That's a lot of money just to use the lights directly from the battery with a switch, instead of wiring up to the high or low beam.
I'm looking to run mine off the battery with a switch like you but i was just wondering how you did it?
thanks

steveD 14-11-15 18:34

I have a similar set-up with the Vision X's.

But my wiring is via a relay and seperate switch so that :-

1 I can switch them off completely.
2 The dip and main bike lights switch the dip and main X's on.
3 When dip is on, the X is on dip also.
4 When main is on, both dip X and main X are on.
5 When the pass button is pressed the main X fires as well as the main.
6 I have put some diodes in the system to stop the dip and main X's switching each other on.
6 As Pete mentions, the main beam as Standard leaves a big dark hole in front of you which I now can have lit up by the dip X.
7 The main X supplements the poor standard main headlight.

As I have a complete headlight unit less front clear plastic, I,m gonna have a go at some Reflector headlights and try and shoehorn them into the standard body.

I might also have a go at some of these LED bulbs that have appeared on some sites as the Standard headlights are a joke. My little CB250RS Honda has a better headlight.
..............and just so you know I did try HID's, much brighter but they take time to heat up and going from dip to main leaves you in the dark for far too long.......................And they burn soooooo hot that they will take the reflective silvering off the headlight. I know I have that headlight unit to prove! (No I didn't pick up the pheasant that took the 'glass' off!)

Steve

Pleiades 14-11-15 19:50

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Gore (Post 215953)
How did you wire the switch in with the lights?
I'm currently looking at the kit on adventure spec and I see they sell a wiring harness for �40 plus the switch isn't even waterproof. That's a lot of money just to use the lights directly from the battery with a switch, instead of wiring up to the high or low beam.
I'm looking to run mine off the battery with a switch like you but i was just wondering how you did it?
thanks

First up, as you may have read, my Vision Xs are a matched pair of spots, not one of each kind of beam pattern (1x wide/1x spot) which makes wiring a little easier than Steve's setup as they are either both on or both off and don't need to be switched independently.

Whilst mine are wired directly to the battery, they are still triggered by a relay because I don't won't any pesky kids turning my spots on a running the battery down. The relay trigger comes off the sidelight circuit via a handlebar mounted switch. The main load supply comes straight off the battery, through the relay and to the lights. This means the lights can be switched on/off independently of headlight beam position and they can also be turned on with the key in the "P" position; this I find very handy for erecting a tent a night.

This is the kind of switch I use, although I got it for about a fiver off ebay:

http://www.zenoverland.com/user/prod...-SWT-001_1.jpg

This is the wiring diagram:

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...ingdiagram.jpg

The AS wiring kit is expensive for what you get: some wire, cables ties, a cheap switch, a few connectors and a relay, which on their own would easily cost less than a tenner. I'd suggest it is only worth buying if you don't have the skills to make the loom yourself.

TBH I use the spots less than I did these days as I've wired up the headlights so dip stays on when main is selected which means there is no longer that annoying dark hole on main beam anymore. It's a simple and free mod to do and well worth it.

Read this.

jo75 14-11-15 21:47

I have the vision x lights also , very impressed , build quality and light out put, would recommend to any one..

keithy2 16-11-15 23:31

vision x lights
 
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Originally Posted by techno-hog (Post 142338)
ah brilliant cheers, i will probably do a simular thing in that case, next question is where did you get them from??
would be very usefull especiall because of the height of the bike just adjusting the light unit up doesnt make much of a difference but just blinds other drivers wich could end up dangerouse lol

Hi the vision x lights are very expensive �95 each!! a cheaper and in my opinion just as effective option are the lights recommended in my post titled (spotlights led) in the forum section performance mods and enhancements/ electrics & lighting see the photos at the end of the post.

Pleiades 17-11-15 00:01

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Originally Posted by keithy2 (Post 216061)
Hi the vision x lights are very expensive �95 each!! a cheaper and in my opinion just as effective option are the lights recommended in my post titled (spotlights led) in the forum section performance mods and enhancements/ electrics & lighting see the photos at the end of the post.

Indeed. We're lucky now; there is a huge array of very cheap LED auxiliary lighting options out there at the moment - spoilt for choice!

What you've got to remember is that over 5 years ago, when I started this thread, there wasn't any choice at all. LED tech was in its infancy, they were the new must have thing, and the only option out there was the Vision X and they were �80 a pop back then! (That's about �120 EACH in today's money allowing for inflation etc.) I was lucky as I got mine from the US for $120 (�80) for the pair if I remember right?

TBH, I really don't think I'd buy a set now at the price you have to pay knowing what I do and having a much bigger choice available, especially having done the "dual beam" headlamp mod. With that done I actually don't think additional lighting is really necessary any more.

What I will say in defence of the Vision X units is that, of all the LED spots I've seen/touched/used, they are of far superior build quality to any of the cheap ebay stuff. I've actually got a pair of �5 Vision X copies from ebay as work lights on the Land Rover and the difference between them and the genuine article is night and day! ;)

keithy2 17-11-15 00:45

vision x lights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 216062)
Indeed. We're lucky now; there is a huge array of very cheap LED auxiliary lighting options out there at the moment - spoilt for choice!

What you've got to remember is that over 5 years ago, when I started this thread, there wasn't any choice at all. LED tech was in its infancy, they were the new must have thing, and the only option out there was the Vision X and they were �80 a pop back then! (That's about �120 EACH in today's money allowing for inflation etc.) I was lucky as I got mine from the US for $120 (�80) for the pair if I remember right?

TBH, I really don't think I'd buy a set now at the price you have to pay knowing what I do and having a much bigger choice available, especially having done the "dual beam" headlamp mod. With that done I actually don't think additional lighting is really necessary any more.

What I will say in defence of the Vision X units is that, of all the LED spots I've seen/touched/used, they are of far superior build quality to any of the cheap ebay stuff. I've actually got a pair of �5 Vision X copies from ebay as work lights on the Land Rover and the difference between them and the genuine article is night and day! ;)

To be fair i was not expecting much from my ebay lights but when i unwrapped the box I was surprised to be looking at hefty alloy solidly made lights i was expecting cheap plastic tat for the price.

jo75 18-11-15 08:07

When I brought mine I thought they were expensive ( and nearly didn't buy them!) but when I opened the packaging and saw the build quality and lens quality I realised that's where the money goes.You could proberly have a brick fly up and hit them ******s and they would remain intact (I would think alignment might be an issue after though).Would I buy another? Hell yeah, but I think the wife would kill me after she notices it on the bank statement!..she too thinks they expensive!

photographicsafaris 09-03-16 19:09

Mount on the indicator bolts?
 
I've been looking to sort out my LED lights as I've not been happy with the other mounting solutions.
I am now riding some 130km's between Cape Town and Langebaan fairly frequently in the early / late hours so light is an issue, particularly with the road works and mist, visibility is a problem. I needed to make a massive difference to seeing and being seen.
Finally found something I am happy with, together with an Orange headlight cover, I've got these and couldn't be happier.

These LED Lights are very white, and sincerely dominate the main headlight, but as per the original poster, I have angled them to fill in the foreground and paint the background. I will take some photo's - but don't have anywhere to upload the photos to, to link.

I removed the tank "cheek" pads, and the indicator inside bolt, then reattached with the light bracket underneath this, so the lights are inside the cheek pads, shining out between the fork and the tank. This way nothing is proud of the bike, and easily removed, snag anything or get broken in a fall.
The allowable movement angles are minimal, and its a real awkward position to get the spanners in, but the effect is really tidy. My only gripe being where to put all the excess wiring - at this stage its just cable tied, but will probably cut the length to match the indicators.

I lack the technical expertise to wire in together with the main lights, and just need to make sure I switch off the handle bar switch. (already forgotten for two hours, didn't affect starting, so minimal battery drain too.) I am now looking for an illuminated light switch.


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