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SpeedpeteDK 24-07-10 14:45

MTC exhausts - review
 
Hi All
Finally I got some time to write my 2 cents about the MTC cans from the UK.

I ordered the cans before I knew there was a discount - when I mentioned it they immediately wired me the 10% via PayPal - sweet!

Fitting:
This is how they looked when I got them
Nice and shiny...
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/x...5052010129.jpg
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/x...5052010128.jpg
When putting the rubbered metal things on slide them from the end of the can as the metal can make marks in the can itself.. I got a tiny scratch doing exactly that.

After a few weeks vacation (2 weeks in Florida for me and 10 days of being stolen going who knows where) I came back to my bike and could get to the fitting.

Removing the originals was easy peasy - exept for the fact that I did not have an allen wrench that fit... after buying and breaking a Bahco T-handle I had to go to my brothers place and have him help loosen the bolts... And off they came!
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/x...6062010210.jpg
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/x...062010209B.jpg
And then came the fitting... could not see how I would be able to fit the cans without any spacers to move the cans a bit out from the bike - and spent lots of time looking through tool boxes and stuff to find something to use. I live in an appartment building and had to go up and down to 4th floor several times... Finally I found out the cans could get fitted without spacers... DOH!
However the alignment was really difficult to get right.
Seen from the back the connect pipes were not completely mirrors of each other - this gave some problems with one of the sides - dont know if that is how its supposed to be...
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/x...6062010214.jpg
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/x...6062010212.jpg
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/x...062010218B.jpg

Finally got the cans on and the two metal thingys holding it to the bike - getting them straight was a pain in the.... but finally got them on. I am not a very patient person so gave up after they were aligned like this
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/x...062010216B.jpg
For some reason one is a bit longer than the other - but who cares... It actually got a bit worse after having to add another part later (see under Sound-section)
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/x...6062010217.jpg
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/x...062010219B.jpg
Very sweet looking indeed! Must attract some hot babes!

Sound:
... yummy yummy - but very loud!
After riding for a while my ears were ringing and I was a bit tired of the sound - a bit of a bummer as I like the look and to actually being able to hear the bike when riding. On top of the bummer of the too loud sound the following depression for actually realizing I have now become so old that stuff can be too loud was even worse... Had to use earplugs and still had a headache after riding :(. This actually prompted me to buy some real molded earplugs to keep my hearing intact :).

Contacted MTC and they sent me (without charge) some metal round plate things with holes I could fit between the connect pipes and the can itself - that was done yesterday - of course forgetting to take a photo... sorry.

When first firing the bike up there was a lot of rattling and clanking as the metal thing settled itself in. This helped a lot and I can now ride without earplugs for a while (initial estimate).
Maybe the plates they should be shipped with the can always?
I wanted to measure the dB with stock, MTCs without small plate and with - but only got to measuring the final setup with the small plates at 93-94 dB idling and 109 reving a bit. Quite noisy experiment when living in the centre of copenhagen ;o).

The can comes with a dB killer
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/x...0062010220.jpg

Hope this helps you other guys in deciding if you want MTC cans --> I highly recommend them - WITH the small extra sound-dampening plate - so ask for that when ordering. I dont actually know if there is a cat in these cans or if that is in the connecter pipes or headpipes??
The service especially gets a 10 out of 10 rating from me.

I will do some minor adjustments to the review later on if needed.

CaptMoto 24-07-10 14:55

Thank you and my my what a great pair.... (no not you this time Selina :D )

just for the record, there is no cat in them cans, probably a tiger! :003:

Thanks for the feedback, I will pass it on to MTC.

Cheers

SpeedpeteDK 24-07-10 14:59

No problem! - sorry for the long wait.... Nice to know there is no cat.
Off to Africa then! - always wanted to see how a cross between a Tiger and a Lion looked like...

nazurro 24-07-10 15:18

Thanks for the review! I have been looking forward to seeing some MTC exhaust reviews :clap:

nazurro 24-07-10 15:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedpeteDK (Post 134107)
Contacted MTC and they sent me (without charge) some metal round plate things with holes I could fit between the connect pipes and the can itself

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedpeteDK (Post 134107)
The can comes with a dB killer

I don't quite understand the difference. Are both db killers, and the one that comes with the can you fit in the back? And the one between pipes and can was not included?

SelinaXC 24-07-10 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 134109)
(no not you this time Selina :D )

Oiii I saw that! :)

My in depth review of MTC cans:

They're brilliant.

Thanks for listening :p

Selina

CaptMoto 24-07-10 15:42

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Originally Posted by SelinaXT (Post 134115)
Oiii I saw that! :)

http://www.ultimatemyspace.com/userp.../ggg_21965.gif

SpeedpeteDK 25-07-10 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by nazurro (Post 134114)
I don't quite understand the difference. Are both db killers, and the one that comes with the can you fit in the back? And the one between pipes and can was not included?

I think the one with a picture is the "normal" dB killer - that goes in the back end of the can. The other ones were not included in the package - but MTC sent them immediately after I said they were a bit too loud.
It took the high pitched smack sound off the pipes - will try to upload some sound files later on.
From MTC:
"They are classed as road legal however your bike is very loud once having any after market cans fitted. If you send me your address we can send you a couple of gauzes out that you slip in to the inlet end of your cans which will take a bit more of the noise away from them."


nazurro 25-07-10 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedpeteDK (Post 134161)
I think the one with a picture is the "normal" dB killer - that goes in the back end of the can. The other ones were not included in the package - but MTC sent them immediately after I said they were a bit too loud.
It took the high pitched smack sound off the pipes - will try to upload some sound files later on.
From MTC:
"They are classed as road legal however your bike is very loud once having any after market cans fitted. If you send me your address we can send you a couple of gauzes out that you slip in to the inlet end of your cans which will take a bit more of the noise away from them."


Ok, I guess two db killers do more than only one then :)

I wonder how much those hinder the exhaust flow, in regards to gaining hp?

CaptMoto 25-07-10 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by nazurro (Post 134163)
Ok, I guess two db killers do more than only one then :)

I wonder how much those hinder the exhaust flow, in regards to gaining hp?

Not as much as the original cans that's for sure. I wouldn't worry too much.

SpeedpeteDK 25-07-10 20:15

Have no idea how much more hp it gives me but with both dB killers in the bike is still a bit more fresh than with stock exhausts. And without both they are just too loud.

Selina do you have the same cans? - do you have both in?

stumpydave 25-07-10 21:51

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Originally Posted by SpeedpeteDK (Post 134182)
Have no idea how much more hp it gives me but with both dB killers in the bike is still a bit more fresh than with stock exhausts. And without both they are just too loud.

Selina do you have the same cans? - do you have both in?

I have similar cans to selina, (actually 150mm shorter) with just the standard db killers in the cans themselves. Lot louder than stock cans but not too loud for me. Everybody has different ideas of what is too loud and what isnt :icon_lol:. Way too loud without them though, would attract tooo much attention off plod. Never heard of anybody putting extra db killers "pre can".
Like you I have also been impressed with mtc's service and quality.

SelinaXC 25-07-10 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedpeteDK (Post 134182)
Selina do you have the same cans? - do you have both in?

Hiya pete,

I have the standard length round MTC cans, if you look on their price list then the cheapest that can be bought from 'em. Came with standard baffles, (db killers) which are removable with an allen key, never tried it without the baffles but keep meaning to one of these days just for the laugh....but know for sure will be 'plod-pullingly' loud. And as I like to bimble around back lanes and villages I'd prefer not to cause offence to the inhabitants.

I don't think in standard trim the MTCs are loud at all, but it does depend on your perspective as mentioned in earlier posts - i find the standard exhaust offensive and wouldn't expect that sort of noise to come out of anything more substantial than a domestic microwave oven. In the UK we should have the option to buy our Japanese bikes discounted without exhausts seeing as they are an ugly waste of money and should immediately be resigned to the bin. Noticed recently that there are options to buy your new Yamaha with Akro's as an option and I don't imagine it's purely a Yamaha thing.

Selina

richardsracingmad 25-07-10 22:31

I think they're called Akro's with C.A.T.S./....:eusa_dance:

SpeedpeteDK 26-07-10 21:54

Oh - by the way - wanted to up my CO - and it was already at 126! - isnt it supposed to be around 15-20 at stock? As far as I remember from the CO adjusting tread it goes from -128 --> 128 - so I cant do that much adjusting...

nazurro 26-07-10 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedpeteDK (Post 134260)
Oh - by the way - wanted to up my CO - and it was already at 126! - isnt it supposed to be around 15-20 at stock? As far as I remember from the CO adjusting tread it goes from -128 --> 128 - so I cant do that much adjusting...

Wow that was a lot... mine was set to 17, I upped to 25.

Johnny Dangerously 30-07-10 22:59

is that difference in length normal? or due to the self proclaimed impatience when fitting? Just curious as I'm lining up approval to buy a set but don't think that is too tidy. Anyone else got a length difference on the two cans?

SpeedpeteDK 26-08-10 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Dangerously (Post 134577)
is that difference in length normal? or due to the self proclaimed impatience when fitting? Just curious as I'm lining up approval to buy a set but don't think that is too tidy. Anyone else got a length difference on the two cans?

I think it is a combination of both - When the pipes are new it is much easier to get the pipes to fit and to push them all the way to the bottom. I had used the pipes for a while before having to take them apart and fit the new silencing thingy - so there was some soot in the way - and didnt bother to remove it.
I am a very impatient non-perfectionistic person :toothy3:

afk40 28-07-11 19:53

any links to buying these cans. ? please. cheers

saabman 26-03-12 14:48

Hi SpeedpeteDK;

Tell me did you ever grab some pics of the various db inserts?
I have aquired some MTC cans for my XT660R and find them a tad loud on long runs...

Cheers :-)

blockhead 08-09-16 12:00

Thanx for the info on MTC as I will be ordering a titanium pair soon, & the sound damping is very useful as I'm not a hoon (debateable as I am a blockhead oi! oi!). hoon:- Aussie slang for hooligan.


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