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jasext 06-01-10 23:35

Does anyone have prices and a list of parts (from other models) of what they have done to convert to wp ?

jasext 06-01-10 23:40

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Originally Posted by valentine (Post 115832)
Would like to see the bike once complete. Sounds awesome
Am doing my own conversion at the moment using a wr front end with upgraded springs.
Have only had to put a spacer in the top clamp + engineer a bracket for the stops. Oversize disk & caliper bracket. I am going to do the Rydale and Hafren rallys on it, did the Hafren last year and would reccommend it to anyone with a big bike and some off road skill.
Cheers

Went up to the hafren to watch ,a load of mates were doing it ,is this you ?if so there are lots more photos of the event on vdsr

http://www.vdsr.co.uk/ride-reports/hafren-09/15/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/PA250041.jpg

flatboarder 11-01-10 15:45

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Originally Posted by Niek (Post 115657)
Nice conversion, but I think you need to revalve/respring the fork. The 690 is a lot lighter espeacially the front.

No problem about. We will test as is, then adjust suspension. This is one major reason for getting it done with support from local shops around my home. Most of the work was done by my local WP suspension shop who are quite well known with customizing things, and they will be happy to adjust suspension in whatever way possible. Also they will supply external spring tension adjusters as a last step.
The 690's WP48 fork in fact feels somewhat softer than stock tenere fork, but it is known to be quite strong and there is 4cm of additional travel, after all. My fork crown was designed to locate fork 3cm downward to compensate for longer travel together with shortened total fork length (I did not want to cut fork travel by inserting some sort of stopper). When I did a short test ride (some yards only) the front did not feel any lower at all, but we will take care of this as soon as the bike will be rideable again. These will be the finalizing steps and it will take several more weeks until then.

Nice pictures of yours. I really like the 690 KTMs which in my opinion belong to the best motorbikes, KTM ever built (as well as other manufacturers...)
I own a WR250R together with my Tenere, both replacing just one 690 Enduro.
However, the Tenere is very good for relaxed single cylinder touring (with baggage and stuff). The WR is good for offroad, and I definitely do not need that much power when riding offroad.

My status: today I handed over my fork assembly to some metal works company to finalize my inacceptably ugly self made fender mounting bracket. The Meca System bracket would not fit my fender (African Queens GFK hand made), so we need to do our own.
Pictures as always in my picasa online album.

No further steps until now. Talon hubs take their time. Upper fork crown is currently being anodized.
Regards, Phil

flatboarder 13-01-10 17:07

Just returned from my favourite locksmith. Professional metalworkers finally made my fender mounting kit. Perfectly done.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

That compares to the meca system kit. Slightly more expensive, but total custom work from stainless steel. Fender located at perfect position. Very happy with it.

flatboarder 15-01-10 13:49

triple clamp anodized.

http://picasaweb.google.de/lh/photo/...eat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.de/lh/photo/...eat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.de/lh/photo/...eat=directlink

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The fourth link does not work. Obviously there is some anti spam policy deactivating any more than three links in a post. Just see last picture of picasa album!

As discussed in JMos thread there is in fact not enough clearance for my 25cm of travel. Although my fender is mounted deepest possible now it looks like it would slightly hit the radiator when fork gets compressed fully. We need to check out after everything is assembled. It looks like I could probably get no more than 23cm of travel or so, which makes me wonder since stock fork has got 21cm and my fork is located 3cm deeper to gain more clearence. Will see.
Regards, Phil

toast 15-01-10 19:40

:wav:

Nice work Phil, great to see it coming along

flatboarder 01-02-10 13:02

Well it's taking its time. Still no wheels. Some brake pump experiments:
http://picasaweb.google.at/lh/photo/...eat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.at/lh/photo/...eat=directlink

The Magura 195 radial pump with 13mm piston will be combined with a magura caliper shown in this picture: http://www.powersports.magura.com/ty...5f8450e99d.jpg
We need to find a way for fitting it to the WP48 fork by use of an adapter. These adapters are available, but ours needs some offset to locate caliper some millimeters to the left. Otherwise it might touch the spokes.

The pump will fit my handlebar without any clearance to wind screen. This means, although maximum angle of turn has been reduced due to my custom triple clamps and I have 6 possible positions for handle bar on top of the triple clamp, I had some trial and error until it did fit, but it is not yet perfect. Will add 10mm of height to handlebar to give some more clearance.

I am really hoping to get it all done soon.

JMo 01-02-10 14:06

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Originally Posted by flatboarder (Post 118643)
The Magura 195 radial pump with 13mm piston will be combined with a magura caliper shown in this picture: http://www.powersports.magura.com/ty...5f8450e99d.jpg
We need to find a way for fitting it to the WP48 fork by use of an adapter. These adapters are available, but ours needs some offset to locate caliper some millimeters to the left. Otherwise it might touch the spokes.

Lovely looking lever there Flatboarder, but I think you are making work for yourself using the Magura caliper? If you use the stock Brembo from the left hand side (it's the same as fitted to various KTMs), all you need to do is buy the corresponding disc (say 270mm oversize Braking Wave like mine, or even the 298mm on the 690RR bikes) which will come with the correct caliper bracket to mount it up perfectly in line with the KTM wheel/hub?

J xx

mac-cos 01-02-10 14:20

I would echo J'Mos thoughts, why make life hard for yourself and spares difficult to obtain... brembo bits abound all over ebay.

flatboarder 01-02-10 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMo (Post 118645)
Lovely looking lever there Flatboarder, but I think you are making work for yourself using the Magura caliper? If you use the stock Brembo from the left hand side (it's the same as fitted to various KTMs), all you need to do is buy the corresponding disc (say 270mm oversize Braking Wave like mine, or even the 298mm on the 690RR bikes) which will come with the correct caliper bracket to mount it up perfectly in line with the KTM wheel/hub?

J xx

Yes, this would be easiest and most likely cheapest, but our decision was based on a proposal of the supplier of my new wheels who will also need to make rear Talon hub fit the Tenere, fit the brake parts and will legalize all those modification afterwards. So I will stick to their way of doing it although it costs some money, since otherwise there would probably be no chance of legalizing it at all. To me this seems like some kind of contribution for that comfortable service of doing it all inclusive, which would be an unbearable load for an individual like me. It is not that easy just fitting parts together and then go and legalize it. There are so many modifications necessary and it is totally custom. They would send me home immediately in case I would try it on my own.

Also I need to say, these brake parts look nice to me and it is a 4 piston caliper and maybe will give somewhat better braking. Lets see.

Note my Tenere will not be aimed at Rallye Racing (although I would really like to get into it) but will mostly be a touring motorcycle with baggage and maybe a second person on it. In the long run there may be some old men rallyetouring or whatever, but not even close to what you are doing.

I would not consider fitting such a brake system to an offroad sports bike as long as I would not use it for supermoto. For offroad usage I consider small disks with a typical offroad caliper completely sufficient (and actually used such systems for supermoto as well, but only lightweighted sports bikes)

Phil


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